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good...now maybe the so-called "leftists" can put this issue aside and concentrate on issues that matter to more than about 1% of the population...I refer to these really "silly" issues like wages, single-payer healthcare (obamacare is a mess), trade, flooding of the labor supply, the drug war, worker rights and benefits, more time off and vacation, monopolies, regulatory capture, NIMBYized zoning/regs (aka affordable housing)...you know, the issues that matter to all americans, the issues that used to occupy leftists before they got sidetracked with The Most Important Issue Of All Time.


Civil rights should matter to all of us, not just the people who lacked them.


What makes you think that people have not been and do not continue to fight for those issues at the same time as they have been fighting for this issue? There is not one "leftist" who can only address one issue at a time and there are lots of other people besides that "leftist" who are pushing for progressive change.

I wonder why this bothers you so much and why you seem so dismissive of the issue.


It wouldn't have been such a big deal if there weren't so many legal things tied to it. Taxes, medical, property rights etc.


Interesting how hard you got down voted.

I don't disagree with marriage equality at all, but I also believe that the whole "culture war" has been horribly destructive to our ability to address more pressing issues. It's been a fantastic divide-and-conquer tactic to con lower income (and usually socially conservative) people into voting against their economic best interests, and to prevent the formation of any meaningful progressive coalition on these issues.

Hopefully we can reach some kind of consensus here and put some of this to bed so we can move on to things that are, I hate to say it, much more important -- like the things you list.


the readers here are young and educated, which for practical purposes translates to being fascist.

Fascism is best defined by the degree to which the overclass controls the youth of a nation by propaganda. Because the youth of today have been pushed into college, that means they are highly propagandized.

And of course the overclass loves it when they can force the youth of the nation to focus on an issue such as gay rights. Not only is it a natural wedge issue, making it harder for the people to unite against the overclass, but by leading youth into social issues leftism and away from hardcore economic leftism, this is a win-win for the overclass.

Anyway, this dynamic in play here with gay marriage is a perfect window into american fascism.


What's ironic is how condescending and formulaic your writing is, considering your hatred of the 'overclass'.


formulaic, how?

Ironic, how? It is ironic like, it's ironic, the lakers beat the supersonics, or is it like rain on your wedding day sort of ironic?


Gay people fighting for their rights doesn't stop anyone else fighting for anything else.

Zero-sum fallacy.

If you want gay people to stop being all annoying and campaigny, then get people to stop persecuting us all around the world.


Just calling something a fallacy makes you seem smart, but doesn't make you right.

Is media attention infinite? Does your government can discuss infinite number of issues? I don't think so.


To be fair, it's that big of an issue among conservative Christians as well, when I reality there are much bigger issues that fall under that group's area of concern.


I agree with you strongly. There are more pressing issues that could be detrimental to the global population that should take prescience.


Tell that to the widow who lost custody of their children since their state didn't recognize their marriage and didn't have 2 party adoptions.




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