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I don't think Spain has such amazing quality of life if you are not already set. It's very tough for young people. It doesn't reward hard work and education. If you have your nice house in a nice place and a good government job it's a happy place but from what I see around people, especially young productive people are not in good place here.

Spain is lucky that it gets around 20% of its economy because of nice weather (tourism + foreign real estate buyers) but I don't think it's enough to sustain the quality of life if there are no reforms.



> I don't think Spain has such amazing quality of life if you are not already set. It's very tough for young people. It doesn't reward hard work and education

When I first came here I literally spent 2 days sleeping outside as I couldn't afford housing, and had very rough 4-5 years before I even got my first programming job. Today I'm financially independent though, and it's probably all thanks the type of environment Spain has fostered together with my own willpower, compared to the environment in the country I'm from where it'd be short of impossible to do what I did, with zero education.

I think it depends on what you compare it to. Plenty of places are way worse, and many other places are surely better. It's definitively possible to achieve amazing quality of life even if you aren't "already set", even outside of government jobs (that don't even pay that well anyways).


Thank you for your perspective. As the beginnings were tough (sleeping outside) can you briefly describe how Spain helped you along the way? From your description it sounds you got there mainly by your own resolve so I am curious why you are praising Spain.


If you think Spain it's Andalucia, Murcia and Valencia (and the archipelagos) I have bad news for you.


> It's very tough for young people. It doesn't reward hard work and education.

Isn't this applicable to pretty much everywhere now?


Imo USA is much better than EU (and especially countries like Spain) on this one. I live in EU, my family (both immigrants from different countries) live in USA. I don't think it's comparable. In USA if you are somewhat smart and somewhat hard working you will do very well vast majority of the time. There are significantly more opportunities there for people who want to take them.




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