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I live in a bubble in Calgary, and am from Montreal originally. Despite that, I saw lines of people waiting to sign petitions for separation in smaller cities. People who were happy to have their photos taken while they are signing petitions for separation from Canada.

There are some cultural factors in Alberta which draw it closer to the US than to Ontario and Quebec. Libertarianism, pro-fossil fuels, differences wrt firearms, differences in attitudes to crime and punishment, etc... The perception is that previous compromises around these items are slowly frayed to appease voting blocks in other provinces (mostly Quebec).

Then, the dirty reality; the Canadian economy has never been "great", at least in my lifetime. Nearly my whole class at university wound up going to the US, because one couldn't get a decent paying job in Canada in a lot of fields. Even our current prime minister did a ton of his work abroad. If separating (IE: joining the US) was only an economic question, only a tiny elite would support remaining a part of Canada.

The question Alberta separatists wish to ask is much less dishonest than the Quebec separation question in 95, which leads me to believe they are much more confident about their success. I wouldn't rule it out.





separation != joining the US

There is small but loud group of chronic whiners who hate everything (often including each other) pushing the former.

Almost nobody is pushing the latter.


That might be the rhetoric, but separation means joining the US. The experience of landlocked country would be one of getting taken advantage of by every country around it.

There is a good 20% of people in Alberta who would vote for separation today. Take a close look, they aren't voting to be an independent country surrounded by a hostile country around it and a superpower that hijacks oil tankers to the south.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/red-deer-alberta-ind...

It is a stupid idea because the level of changes that would have to happen to everything would be much, much more than people realize. But Brexit has shown us that people will vote for stupid things if they are sold by trusted-but-dishonest actors


The stated objective of the Alberta Prosperity Project is for Alberta to be a sovereign nation. They're not looking to trade Ottawa for Washington.

Of course it is a loony idea, but that is what they're pushing.


you can listen to their purveyors on various podcasts and the like.

the are still actively pushing to try to get the US onboard at the same time.

you can also look to crimea as an example, independence and annexed by russia happened within a day or two


The question the group will ask is: "Do you agree that the province of Alberta should cease to be a part of Canada to become an independent state?"

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/alberta-referendum-q...


meh, they love white grievance politics so they'd love to be a vassal state of maga.

A separated Alberta would become a de facto Puerto Rico in thrall to the US without any votes.

The Forever Canadia https://www.forever-canadian.ca/ petition collected over 400,000 signatures from Alberta electors.

Then Danielle moved the goalposts to make it easier for the Independence folks:

Signature collection period: January 3 to May 2, 2026 Number of signatures required for a successful petition: 177,732 (10% of the total number votes cast in the 2023 Provincial General Election).


I signed that petition, just like I voted against Quebec's treason of 1995.

How do you feel about the night of long knives (the canadian one obviously) and the failure of lake meech?

I feel that neither justifies 2 generations of separatist blackmail, and the use of holocaust terms for constitution failures between two Quebecois men (Lesvesque and Trudeau) is inappropriate — but completely and utterly unsurprising for the overwrought self-pitying elite of the province. Moreover, it is no surprise that Quebec rejects the constitution but simultaneously uses the Not Withstanding clause to block language and religious rights. It is like the bully in Doraemon — what's mine is mine and what's yours is mine.

That said I do grudgingly admire Lesvesque and felt he was much better than all of his successors. You could tell he had a philosophy of a Quebec that could be an actual nation, not merely a collection of childless people who spoke French and simply emulated France.

There is no Lesvesque in Alberta and that is why Alberta will never be a nation; only a gas station for the US. Still, if the only thing people value is income maybe that's the better outcome.




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