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This is one of those rare cases where I believe young men would benefit from reading more Nietzsche.

"Do you want to live 'according to nature'? O you noble Stoics, what a verbal swindle! Imagine a being like nature - extravagant without limit, indifferent without limit, without purposes and consideration, without pity and justice, simultaneously fruitful, desolate, and unknown - imagine this indifference itself as a power - how could you live in accordance with this indifference? Living - isn't that precisely a will to be something different from what this nature is? Isn't living appraising, preferring, being unjust, being limited, wanting to be different?"





This just shows that Nietzsche did not understand stoicism on any deep level

Nietzsche never cared about understanding of anything, he had an agenda, a mission to fulfill. His arguments are always shallow and shifty - the quote provided by throw4847285 is a good illustration of it.

With that said, my words aren't an endorsement of Stoicism, nor am I against it - I know little about it because I don't think it addresses my specific needs.


If that's true, then what hope does anyone else have?

This is quoted (and addressed) near the beginning of the article (paragraphs 3 to 6), for what it's worth.

Well that's what I get for commenting before reading the article. A nasty habit.

Well now that I've read that part of the article, I can say that it's a pretty lame retort.


Sounds Socratic rather than taking a position



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