The original comment was about one language that borrowed cipher from Arabic (i....

		sundarurfriend 10 days ago \| parent \| context \| favorite \| on: How Lewis Carroll computed determinants (2023) The original comment was about one language that borrowed cipher from Arabic (i.e. English) where the word no longer means zero. So my comment was about a different language that also borrowed the word cipher (i.e. Tamil) where it still retains that meaning.