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It’s saved so over 15,000 lives and protected the human rights of millions of Salvadorans. Truly a great accomplishment.

I’m excited to see what positive coverage CBS has of this great development in human rights in El Salvador.



Universal Declaration of Human Rights, Article 5:

No one shall be subjected to torture or to cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment.


Agreed. 15,000 el Salvadorans have not been subjected to arbitrary execution. A triumph of the rule of law.


I don't know enough about El Salvador's politics to know whether the mass imprisoning brought down the gang murders and improved stuff on the street, but why, once you've got people trapped and unable to do harm, can't you go back through them using officials you audit for gang influence or whatever and have individual trials? Instead, they did a farcical hundred-person-at-a-time show trial for the people they imprisoned, so who knows what portion were guilty. What it makes clear to me is that there's no interest here in identifying the innocent or guilty, but plenty of interest in keeping the undistinguished mix caged up like dogs in a kennel for the rest of their lives. What excuses do you make for that?


What's saved that? The torture camp? You know bukele _is associated with_ MS13


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How about caring for both? How about that as an idea? It’s impossible for you to accept that you can arrest and jail all those people to protect the lives of regular citizens but also not torture them while they are in jail?


Sigh… there is no such thing as forfeiting your human rights by committing a crime. You only forfeit your freedom temporarily.

And why mention that inmates have forfeited their human rights if you see no evidence of abuse? Weird thing to pre-argue.


Of course there is. Freedom is a pretty fundamental human right. We don't mind taking it away from some people, sometimes permanently. Then of course the death penalty is a thing.

Now organised abuse, or even not taking steps to prevent such abuse is accepted to be a bad thing by most of society so that shouldn't happen. But my concern isn't directed in any way towards violent gangsters that held an entire country hostage.


How do you know who's a violent criminal without a trial?




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