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How is "more than 100" people "rallying" even remotely newsworthy? What's the threshold, three?




if you read the article instead of just criticizing the headline:

> They listened to Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel criticizing the lack of transparency with DTE, the utility that's associated with the Saline Township proposal, and legislators who protested tax breaks for data center projects.

> ...

> "We're talking about 1.4 gigawatts, which is, of course, enough to provide energy to a city of a million people," Nessel said. "I think we should be taking this extremely seriously, don't you? Do you guys trust DTE? Do you trust Open AI? Do we trust Oracle to look out for our best interests here in Michigan?"

this wasn't just a random group of 100 people, they were organized enough to get the state AG as well as multiple state legislators to speak. seems fairly newsworthy to me.


In Lansing, it was below freezing and windy most of the day. If I noticed 100 people standing around on the pavement for hours in that, I'd probably imagine they deserved at least some regard for their concerns. But then, I'm not a Michigan politician that needs to get gamer Johnny out of my basement and on to a cushy non-profit no-show kickback job, courtesy of whatever big tech outfit wants a data center.

Three people could be a group of friends. More than 100 is clearly different.

Given that there are usually _zero_ people rallying in Lansing, this is notable enough for the local newspaper.


It’s not just this group. A co-worker of mine went to his town meeting about a proposed data center. When he showed up it was standing room only and they had to move the meeting to a bigger venue. I’ve heard stories like this from a few people now around Michigan where they have been trying to put data centers. No one wants them.

> What's the threshold, three?

The threshold is an organization organizing it. Getting 100 people out demonstrates your political power to your supporters and the people you seek to influence. Getting 1,000 people demonstrates that you have more of it.


There is very little common space in Michigan. There is a lot of private land, and a lot of public land, but very few spaces where people congregate. So when they do, it stands out quite a bit.

Since the population is around 112k-114k people that would be around 111,900 people didn’t rally on the low end.

Lol, I prefer that version of the headline:

"99.9% of residents did not show up to protest new datacenters in Michigan"


You could use that same statistic for literally every protest ever, doesn't mean they're not worth the causes

there are dozens of us !

It would be noteworthy if 100 people showed up to my 5 year old's piano recital.

not so much for a 300 acre noisy, water hogging data center.


It’s a movement at 50[1].

[1] A. Guthrie, 1967


It wouldn't be newsworthy if we could trust our representatives not give extra weight to the opinions of the people who yell the loudest.



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