Shocker... they abandoned POSIX compatibility, built a massively over-complicated product, then failed to compete with things like Ceph on the metal side or ubiquitous S3/R2/B2 on the cloud side.
No, they rebranded to AIStor and are now selling to AI companies.
Minio is/was pretty solid product for places where rack of servers for Ceph wasn't an option (it does have quite a bit higher memory requirements), or you just need a bit of S3 (like we have small local instances that just run as build cache for CI/CD)
> they abandoned POSIX compatibility, built a massively over-complicated product
This is a wild sentence--how can you criticize them for abandoning POSIX support __and__ building a massively over-complicated product? Making a reliable POSIX system is inherently very complex.
I think the criticism (just interpreting the post, don’t know anything about the technical situation) is that the complication is not necessary/worthwhile.
POSIX can be complicated, but it puts you in a nice ecosystem, so for some use-cases complex POSIX support is not over complicated. It is just… appropriately complicated.
Sure, but then you can make that argument about any of the features in Minio, in which case the parent's argument about Minio as a whole being overcomplicated is invalidated. Probably the more sensible way to look at things is "value / complexity" or "bang for buck", but even there I think POSIX loses since it's relatively little value for a relatively large amount of complexity.
Yeah. I don’t actually know if they are right or wrong, it depends on the ecosystem the project wants to hook in to, right? I just want to reduce it from “wild” to “debatable,” haha.
What would go in to POSIX compatibility for a product like this which would make it complicated? Because the kind of stuff that stands out to me is the use of Linux specific syscalls like epoll/io_uring vs trad POSIX stuff like poll. That doesn't seem too complicated?
So when we say "they abandoned posix compatibility", are we saying "They abandoned the POSIX filesystem storage backend"? I believe that's true, I used to use minio on a FreeBSD server but after an update I had to switch to just passing in zfs block devs.
Or are we saying that they no longer support running minio on POSIX systems at all, due to using linux specific syscalls or something else I'm not thinking of? I don't know whether they did this or not.
Those seem like two very different things to me, and when someone says "they don't support POSIX", I assume the latter
Ah, yes, I didn't even think of that. I always understood it as "abandon POSIX filesystems (as backend for S3)" because I knew about all these issues with filename/directory clashes,
I don'T think they would abandon POSIX systems in general, because what sense would that make?
