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>and in France we get an adapted case opening that looks less random (X-Ray: you see what's in the box before opening it, but you have to open it to X-Ray the next one)

That still feels like gambling, but rather than gambling on what the current case contains you're gambling on the second one might contain.



And in France specifically, the first case you open is guaranteed to not be a good item. So it's essentially the same system but with an additional $2,50 entry fee


I propose any company that flagrantly violates the intent of a ruling like that is sent to a special judge who operates in the same manner - bring forth a penalty while explicitly looking for every violation and arcane loophole to punish the company with.

It's "technically" just, after all.


You mean "special prosecutor". Judges don't try to find things, they only decide which of the parties before them claiming different things is right.



To save people opening the link...in France it would be a judge not a prosecutor. France has an Inquisitorial rather than the Adversarial legal system the UK and US have. Put simply, a judge doesn't merely decide between the two cases presented to them, they try and establish the facts

Edit: I said 'UK' where I should have said 'England and Wales'. Scotland and Northern Ireland have their own legal systems, although I believe both have Adversarial systems they are different in some ways. The US system could, however, be seen as a continuation of the English system.


This is why HN is great. An immediate pivot to the technicalities and semantics of the French judicial system, off of a pithy comment.

eats baguette


I'll bet apple fan boys will agree to this statement for Valve or any other company, but when it comes to apple having to open up their walled garden in EU and then using every dirty trick in the book to make it impossible, oh boy...


Ye seems like not going with the spirit of the law. But the indirection has to remove alot of the gambling thrill though?


It doesn't "feel" like gambling, it's straight 100% the exact same thing but it's designed in a way that bypasses the legal words.


I'd say it's designed to diminish the pyschological draw somewhat. Gambling is addictive precisely because that "the next one could be the one" element. I wouldn't be surprised if it has a big impact on sales.

That said i think it's still better to just ban it.


This. Valve won that case.


This sounds like that betting game in the Stormlight Archives books that's meant to circumvent the religious prohibition on predicting the future.




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