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>why even target the poor guy

There are plenty of dangerous mentally ill people out there who don't use any type of logic or reason as a basis for their decision-making.



Interesting to see someone whose decision making is so disordered that they manage to carry out a shot from 200 meters and then disappear. That looks more like a carefully planned crime than madness.


I keep seeing this. Why do people keep making the point that if you can make an accurate shot from 200 yards with a rifle that makes you a sane person?


We're mixing sanity with belligerency. Someone in the heat of passion doesn't plan out a 200m shot, alongside an escape route.

I think that's the mixup. You can be insane but still perform some very calculated plots.


People generally use really crude (and incorrect) heuristics when judging others. "He was a family man/good christian/nice to me at work/etc, I don't know how he could have murdered his family!" Mental illness gets it even worse b/c most people don't have any good framework for understanding it.


200 meters isn't that far of a shot if you are familiar with shooting or a hunter. I regularly take down deer at 200-300 yards.

The shooter is also in custody already and captured thankfully.


There are still conflicting reports about whether the shooter is in custody.

The first person of interest was detained, but released.

FBI director says a suspect is in custody. That governor says a person of interest is in custody. Local police say the shooter is still at large. This is what Reuters was reporting as of 1 hour ago.


second suspect also released...


Just saw that. LE gotta be going wild atm.


Oswald was 300 yards away.


Not very relevant unless Kirk was also inside a moving car


Mental illness does not imply the lack of any ability to plan things out.


That they didn't account for drop and hit the neck shows that they weren't in fact very competent.


I'm sure you can do better


I don’t know why this is downvoted. It’s not incorrect. I posit that everyone who’s willing to kill someone in cold blood is at least a little off their rocker.


It’s interesting that you used a vague term, not a DSM term.

Also, I would argue that it has more to do with mental framing than “being crazy”. Police and military leadership hire selectively and craft training to ensure that people aren’t mentally ill and still willing to kill.


Right. I think if you decide to kill someone you are, by definition, a nutcase.


That stance would make every police station, military base, and legislature madhouses. Heck, we could expand that a step further, and declare everyone who voted for those politicians mad.

People decide to kill people all the time. People order others to kill people all the time. People advocate for others to order yet others to kill people all the time. Some violence is legitimate. Some violence is justified. Plenty of violence is neither. But to ignore the violence of the state as sanctified, while condemning all violence against it as madness results in an alarming ethical framework with abhorrent conclusions.


There are also lots of Republicans and right wing media figures who wrongly identified Democrats as “at war with the right.

Mental illness isn’t the only explanation. When people are indoctrinated into stupidity and no longer believe in truth or reality, it’s possible to convince them to both believe “I support police / military” while attacking police officers (several of the worst offenders of Jan 6).

Perceived desperation is a better explainer than some generic mental illness.




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