> Its not just cloud. There is a lot of reliance on mobile OSes too
> If you want to compete you must also invest in associated PaaS and SaaS-services supported by a development framework to code and integrate it all.
People have got to start somewhere, and they can't really take shortcuts. Messages of the type "you need to build all the spectrum of services available on big US brands ovenight" aren't really useful.
- Node Agent that either listens or connects back to an API for instructions.
- An API to request your workload.
- Various decision daemons. IPAM, Block Storage, Etc.
What's missing in Europe is a Culture of Tech Leadership and Investment.
Case in point, I wrote or rewrote borderline 100% of an early European Cloud Provider, and I've never heard of nor been approached to work for another project like this. Even if one existed, they likely wouldn't come anywhere near offering a salary I'd be interested in, and leadership would almost certainly be full of people who haven't built a Cloud Provider before.
( This isn't so say I'm the most credible candidate in the market, but I have had salaried offers for IC in Meta and HFT in London. I'd have loved to build another cloud provider ( with more than a team of 3-5 ) but I've spent most of my career as a contractor interfacing with "cloud" teams offering things like vsphere, wondering where it all goes wrong. )
> What's missing in Europe is a Culture of Tech Leadership and Investment.
Yeah... I wonder if that culture of investment comes from people all over the world giving money to US companies so they can invest. I guess, once they've alienated all of their economic partners to the point sales only happen forced at gunpoint, we'll find out that this "culture of tech leadership and investment" was always an abundance of cash derived from a global market.
> I guess, once they've alienated all of their economic partners to the point sales only happen forced at gunpoint, we'll find out that this "culture of tech leadership and investment" was always an abundance of cash derived from a global market.
Cash definitely helps, because people don't like working for nothing. But there's also a culture of entrepreneurship, not related to wealth, that the US (and other places, e.g. South Africa) has, that lots of European places don't.
But now that the US has shown Europe what cloud is, and done all the investment and learning, maybe Europe can copy one a bit.
Absolutely. One step at a time. It might seem very foolish at the moment but I see that RISC-V based mobile devices to become a reality some day with a Linux OS on top.
Might sound absurd but tell someone on 1st January 2000 on Linux kernel mailing list that one day, half of the world population would be holding Linux operating system in their hands and here we are - excluding Apple, every single device is running a Linux kernel.
DEC/Compaq/HP had working handheld systems running Linux in 2000, starting with the Itsy [1] and moving on to versions of the Compaq iPaq and HP Jornada 720. The kdrive X server was written for these machines. I was running the same software stack on a ruggedized tablet that we manufactured.
I agree, this sounds like a PR piece to get SAP's cloud business, which has been drunkly taxing around the runway, to take off using "nationalistic" rhetoric, as if the UE were a nation of sorts.
Right now cloud is just at the bottom of a huge equation... There's mobile, OS, apps and AI frontier models and chips to tackle to say the least. And all that with ferocious competition from US behemoths. I just don't see that happening. If a nationalistic US government were to chop off or heavily tariff the UE on digital goods and services exports, it would probably crash markets on both sides of the pond, I don't see that happening given the UE propensity to negotiate and bend over when push comes to shove.
Better committing $20B now (by one player) than only talking about it and continuing to rely on others.
And while the point about OSes is also well made, there is no reason to believe that this will not also happen, albeit at a slower pace and via community mechanism rather than SAP funding.
I've seen many projects that go in that direction that have been launched. In a way, one has to 'thank' Trump for incentivising fixing something that should already be done right from the start, and which otherwise would have left undone for longer.
> If you want to compete you must also invest in associated PaaS and SaaS-services supported by a development framework to code and integrate it all.
People have got to start somewhere, and they can't really take shortcuts. Messages of the type "you need to build all the spectrum of services available on big US brands ovenight" aren't really useful.