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unsustainable. and should be unconscionable. almost every pressing social problem can be traced back to the lack of housing supply (of course, some traces are looser than others)


NYC housing price increases have been unsustainable for several decades now.


The same can be said about a number of big cities over the past 30 years. Perhaps there ought to be limits of corporate ownership of residential properties and limits to the number any individual (non corporation) can own too. Also, limits to overseas buyers to prevent gentrification by foreign capital flight. Housing should be for real people who aren't billionaires.


Why does corporate ownership matter?


If we are going for a reductivism, I'm going to take it all the way to pride, greed, and envy for the housing supply problem.

(I could throw in lust, but that's last century's problem since various forms of birth control have negated its influence on housing demand)


Changing human pride, greed and envy is hard. We know how to build housing. Or we used to.


> I'm going to take it all the way to pride, greed, and envy for the housing supply problem.

Eh, I mean greed in other economic environments would cause people to build ever taller condos and apartment buildings to get more and more revenue.


That happens-- castillogrande in Cartagena Colombia used to be a bunch of family homes. Now it looks like Miami. China has tried it, but built a little much.

A problem in doing it in other places is location and regulations (e.g., whole areas where high rises are outlawed, or required to have expensive shrubbery, or a certain percentage of units for low income)


Surely it's not so simple when New York City is building more housing supply that essentially any other American city (and has the best public transit system in the nation)


Source? NYC chronically under builds. It's ranked #35 in new housing construction: https://constructioncoverage.com/research/cities-investing-m...


That link you shared is counting the number of units build per 1k existing units.

Given how dense and populated NYC is (aka how many existing units there are), this metric isn't as meaningful. I believe the grandparent comment was talking about the raw number of units.

Actually, go to the bottom of the page you shared and look at the section titled "Full results", then sort by "Total new housing units authorized". Sadly, you will need to do some quick manual work to parse the results, because it sorts numbers as strings rather than as actual numbers. But you can clearly see from there that NYC is #1 in terms of raw numbers of new housing units. And that's data from 2021, and afaik NYC only increased those numbers significantly in the past 4 years.


"# of new homes / # of people"

Is the only way to access if new home construction will affect prices. NYC is chronically underbidding.


Raw numbers are meaningless when the rate of home building relative to job growth is what defines prices.


Sure. What was the rate of homebuilding to job growth in NYC and other major metro areas in the US?

I am not trying to be snarky, I actually agree with you. I just simply don't have that data on hand right now. But I am aligned with you in suspecting that the rate of home building to job growth would be a better indicator of the real housing market change (as opposed to the ratio of new residential units/1k residents or, to a lesser degree, raw numbers of new residential units).


It is even more accurate to consider job growth in terms of income growth. Job growth could very well go negative but if it means replacement of a working population with one of higher income, that also contributes to upward pressure on prices from this high income job growth.

Even worse for the supply side crunch is that this high income population is not like the previous population in the sense that they aren't as sensitive to this given price level. So demand based responses to price increases aren't seen until the prices are truly bewildering due to the amount of disposable income available for some of these workers that could be spent on housing.


Here’s data from 2021-2025 using https://socds.huduser.gov/permits/index.html

New York-Newark-Jersey City, NY-NJ-PA

~21 million people

2021: 59,383 total units

2022: 60,602

2023: 41,674

2024: 61,159

2025: 6,777

Houston-The Woodlands-Sugar Land, TX

~7.5 million people

2021: 69,007 total units

2022: 75,786

2023: 68,336

2024: 65,296

2025: 11,057

Dallas-Fort Worth-Arlington, TX

~8 million people

2021: 74,617 total units

2022: 77,501

2023: 66,725

2024: 72,319

2025: 9,836

Using Houston alone, NYC is not #1 in raw numbers and in 2025 so far is only permitting 60% as many units as a CBSA 3x smaller than it.

I don’t know if HOU/DFW are the CBSAs pumping out the most units nationally though, they just came to mind.


Houston in Dallas who can simply expand externally into new land are hardly a proxy for a land real estate constrained city like New York that has to build vertically

And how is their mass transportation going? As if houses alone are all that matters.


Surely it's not so simple when New York City is building more housing supply that essentially any other American city

can clearly see from there that NYC is #1 in terms of raw numbers of new housing units

Are the original goalposts, housing supply alone is an important factor in the price of housing though fwiw.


Find me anything that resembles something like this for any other American city https://newyorkyimby.com/



What is actually unconscionable is that when the nature and consequences of inflationary money are exposed, the discussion immediately gets shut down. If the people were to understand what real money is, and it is not the national currency, then people would hold it instead of holding the national currency. Hint: real money is things like GLD/VTC/BTC/PAXG/XMR. Secondly, people also are instructed by the consumerist system to spend as much as they earn, effectively to not save or invest. Controlling the narrative about money is how the rich control the poor.


On what planet is BTC "real money"?

Can you use it for the main uses of money, store value and payment? No, you cannot, because it's very volatile, and very slow and expensive to transact it.

It's as much "real money" as worn t-shirts from sports players are.


The volatility comes with its reward, which is price dips for buying cheaply and price appreciation. Bitcoin Lightning Network is its solution which is cheaper to transact in for those that accept it. Personally I would use Monero for transactions.


It sounds like you're extolling the investment opportunities, which is kind of the opposite of what most people are looking to get out of currency.




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