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When has the hilux ever been available here? I've wanted one for over 20 years, but not enough to pay to import...


Not ever. But apparently there's some new model called the Champ that starts around 10k, and has people who want simple trucks raging out. For good reason, it's a solid looking simple truck.


We’ll need to fire all the industry plants in the EPA before we can legally have a small (fuel efficient) truck here in US. Our emissions laws were written by Big Truck.


has this not happened yet? I don't have a twitter account so i can't ask


No, and even if it were to happen car manufacturers can’t make 4+ year plans based on policies the next bonehead in chief might just revert.

We need a mass popular movement to dismantle the EPA as they stand and rebuild them with an actual purpose.


This isn't argumentative. Do you have anything i can look at to see why the EPA et al would not want a light, cheap, fuel efficient truck?

is it capture by Ford and GM? Are there even trucks as small as the Nissans that had the 2400 motors (or 2600)? I live near enough texas that every truck is way too big, so i don't see many new, small trucks. A lot of people have the old, nearly all metal, small trucks.


> i don't see many new, small trucks

Right, because the EPA has made them illegal in favor of larger, less fuel efficient trucks. This paper covers the topic well^, you can also see many examples searching online for “EPA Small Truck Footprint”.

^ https://meche.engineering.cmu.edu/_files/images/research-gro...


Hey, thanks for replying! I read the title of that paper and immediately knew what it was going to prove. I have a recollection about this from 10 years ago, but for some reason it didn't comport with "it's the EPA's fault we can't have nice things"

you'd think the https://www.nhtsa.gov/ would have something to say about regulations encouraging increased "box height" or grille height; which results in worse outcomes in nearly all accidents (could be all, but i don't feel comfortable asserting that.)

sorry it took me five days to notice you replied.




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