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This is a bit too harsh evaluation, IMO. I visited USA a few times, and I think people there are just used to not knowing exactly how much they'll pay. I am a bit stingy with money (some would say miserly), so when at home I usually count how much I'll pay before proceeding to checkout. This is impossible in the US:

* even something as mundane as a grocery shopping involves taxes (different in every state), not included in the price displayed in the store.

* In restaurants it's mandatory tipping

* for food delivery it's tipping, delivery fees, marketplace fee and more

* for tourists it's "yes the trip costs just $15, but see we forgot to mention that to actually see something you need to buy entrance ticket for another $15"

* etc

Only the last one I would call fraud, but nobody except me was angry so I think it's just the way it is.



> I think people there are just used to not knowing exactly how much they'll pay.

I've been an American my entire life and I've never gotten used to it. I'm pretty sure the pervasive dark patterns are what is deranging our society to the point where we think electing a conman, genital-grabbing, reality TV star as our president will solve things.


blaming trump for all the nation’s ails while a demented conman and possible rapist is actually president seems odd


I'd note that I didn't blame Trump for the nation's ails, but vice-versa.


Applying the phrase "demented conman and possible rapist" to Biden but not to Trump seems odd.


It's all fraud. They just have Stockholm syndrome across the pond :)


AFAIK, the procedure for counting taxes is mandated by law. So the first one just can not be fraud.

(And yeah, lobbyists in my country tried to import that law several time claiming it provides better transparency.)


If the price displayed is not the price i'm paying it's fraud. Even if it's legal.


If the law clearly tells you the relation between the displayed price and the billed price, and the business is doing exactly what the law requires, it can't be fraud.

Anyway, you can ditch the first part. If the law requires it, and the business does exactly what the law requires, it's not fraud.

You can't go around demanding that business violate the law, arguing that not doing so is a crime. You can push for it on moral basis, but never on legal basis.


Can you show me the law that requires the store to not display the final payment amount then? In any jurisdiction?

Note requires not allows.

Bonus: why can't I call it fraud if it's immoral but legal?




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