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It was flat out impossible for me to get Outlook to accept my mail server. They'd only give me some vague response with no actionable steps to resolve it. I gave up and used a gmail account to route everything outgoing. That way mail still shows up as from:jimm@jimm.horse but rides on Google's reputation. Defeats the purpose a little but there's nothing more I can do (apparently unless I buy my own non residential ISP line, host the server in my house, and build reputatiom forever, but that's an absurd length to have to go through. ideally we'd have antitrust legislation forcing MS et al to be fair towards smaller email and save the open internet overall, but I'm not holding my breath.).

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35691618



AWS ses is basically free (literal cents) if you send <1000 emails per month if you want an alternative (this is what I've been using for 2+ years)


Last time I tried to set this up, I think I was unable to get it for the super low advertised price, because they require you use an ec2 instance in order to skirt their minimum monthly charge and you can no longer get free tier ec2 after the first 12 months. so the monthly amount I would have to pay was going to be a non-insignificant amount.


SMTP2Go it is.


I've never in years ever been allowed out of their sandbox which restricts it to verified addresses.

This doesn't seem to be uncommon.


Conversely, I have a pre-MS hotmail address and verification emails never arrive for any number of services.

MS spreads it's toxic protection in every direction.


When I requested to escape the sandbox, my request was granted in nine hours...admittedly, this was six years ago, but it looks like the process is the same (https://docs.aws.amazon.com/ses/latest/dg/request-production...).


From what I've gathered it's highly dependent on region, tried a few others but that probably set off some flags for them even more.

Send a dozen emails weekly, in the end felt a bit ridiculous begging. It's a generous free service so I can't complain.


I've been using it for over six years now, I'm always worried it'll stop working...but besides having to bump my node.js version a few times, so far so good, knock on wood.


Thanks, I'm pretty happy with my setup though. I use my server for lots of other stuff at the same time as email.


It’s annoying but it’s definitely possible. You have to keep harassing the Microsoft’s support email, eventually someone will deign to read it and whitelist your specific IP address.

It took me a week of back and forth but I was eventually able to get them to allow my IP address in one of OVH’s banned blocks.


WTF, outlook, the mail client wouldn't allow you to configure your own mail server for incoming / outgoing email?

Or people using outlook would treat your emails as spam?

If it's the former, it's kind of shocking. Dark days...


I'm guessing they are talking about outlook.com, which is one of Microsoft's alternatives to Gmail. I.e. outlook.com, a host of millions of email addresses, is rejecting the emails from their server.


Ah, thanks for the clarification.


Mailing to hotmail/outlook domains. Not even spam, just rejected.


I read that thread. Looks like issues with IP belonging in same range as digital ocean assets. Guilty by association, I guess.


That's how IP based trust works though.


Damn, that's a cool URL.

Had no idea that Bronies were still a thing, or that hardcore about it.




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