Hacker Newsnew | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submitlogin

Most of us who drink coffee or tea are in the same boat. We do it every day, sometimes multiple times a day. There is withdrawal. There is tolerance. The half-life is so long that even if we stop in the morning, we are spending the majority of the day high.


Just to add a little more complexity to the equation. Note that there is a weird level of approval for some substances ( coffee, uppers, whatever NY brokers and med students use ), because they help some corporate goals, while those that do not increase bottom line and are even detrimental to it ( alchohol, pot and so on ) are frowned upon, because they lead to downtime.

I am mostly thinking out lout.


And if you pay attention to how you actually respond to caffeine, it actually has a HUGE effect on your state of mind and how you react to things. Not always in a bad way, but it easily can affect you as much as weed.


Hearing a friend describe how he reacted to caffeine made me realize that some people have wildly different responses than I do.

Caffeine doesn't make me feel particularly great, and I feel almost no compulsion to have more than one cup, but it made him feel amazing, and he felt compelled to drink more.

I can stop drinking coffee for a week without any annoyance, but if he tries to pull back or stop drinking caffeine, he experiences 2 weeks of crippling headaches.

My takeaway: work your way into any drugs tentatively, and don't listen to people who tell you how much "everyone" responds to it.


For me, caffeine induces a wonderful sense of euphoria (as well as increased energy, increased focus, increased ability to sleep soundly, and decreased appetite), yet I simultaneously feel no impulse to consume it and usually don't.

I have to actively remind myself to consume my caffeine when I really need the boost in focus. The euphoria is a pleasing side effect, but not something I think about when I'm not experiencing it. It's common for me to go weeks at a time without having any, just because I didn't think to.

I think there could be a genetic factor here. Addiction (to alcohol, cigarettes, caffeine, etc.) seems to be fully absent in my family history.


I'm sure there's a genetic factor.

I have an espresso superautomatic, beer in my fridge, and prescribed stimulants, and I often go months without partaking in any of that because it has to be a conscious decision and sometimes it never crosses my mind. I'm uncomfortable leaving my baseline.

It's like wearing fancy clothes. It's enjoyable for a few hours, but I wouldn't want to wear them frequently.


it easily can affect you as much as weed

How so? Comparing relatively normal doses, the effects of caffeine seem subtle in comparison.


After going off caffeine for a day or two, drinking a strong cup of coffee or tea on an empty stomach will give me a fair bit of a buzz, to the extent that it feels like my head is floating. Two cups and work can become difficult and I can't sit still. If I drink three cups by mid-afternoon, I begin to feel anxious and slightly paranoid, as if I'm forgetting something important. It also impairs my sleep.

If you're a habitual user, you may not even realize how it effects you, and you'll need more dosage to get effects.

I'm a very long way from the folks on r/decaf, most of whom I think need some serious help, but it's much more impactful than you may realize.




Guidelines | FAQ | Lists | API | Security | Legal | Apply to YC | Contact

Search: