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		tekknik on July 7, 2023 \| parent \| context \| favorite \| on: Injunction issued in case about social media press... Your first two examples are fraud, not speech. Your third example is speech, but if you remove the mugger and have a friend say the same thing to you it becomes a joke.

elishah on July 8, 2023 [–]

The second example is fraud _and_ speech. The first one would be more like perjury, _and_ also speech.

That's the whole point: fraud, perjury, and several other harmful things are subcategories of speech.

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