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> These were religious schools

So were most of the world greatest universities - harvard, yale, oxford, etc.

Modern universities as we know it ( secular, research based, etc ) started with the humboldtian model in the 1800s.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humboldtian_model_of_higher_ed...

Neither Bologna, nor nalanda, are universities as currently defined.



So by your definition, Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Coumbia, U Penn, Brown, Dartmouth, Oxford, Paris, Liepzig, Bordeau, Glascow, Istanbul, Granada, Strassburg, Moscow, Berlin Technical, Freiberg Technical, Cambridge, practically every major Italian university, and hundreds of others aren't universities?

Just because Harvard had a religious school didn't mean it was as religious school.

Since 1088, when Bologna coined the term to describe its new institution, a university has been (1) an institution of higher education which (2) offers multiple official, publicly recognized diplomas in secular subjects among others. You can redefine it as you like but I think about 250 schools would have words with you.


> So by your definition, Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Coumbia, U Penn, Brown, Dartmouth, Oxford, Paris, Liepzig, Bordeau, Glascow, Istanbul, Granada, Strassburg, Moscow, Berlin Technical, Freiberg Technical, Cambridge, practically every major Italian university, and hundreds of others aren't universities?

They weren't initially. They tranformed into modern universities in the 1800s.

'A 1643 publication defined the university's purpose: "to advance learning and perpetuate it to posterity, dreading to leave an illiterate ministry to the churches when our present ministers shall lie in the dust.'

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harvard_University

Do you think that's what harvard is about today?

> (1) an institution of higher education which (2) offers multiple official, publicly recognized diplomas in secular subjects among others.

A degree mill doesn't a univeristy make. Universities today have to be accredited. Who accredited Bologna? Nothing.

1088 Bologna is not anything anyone around the world considers a university. When people around the world found universities, nobody looks at 1088 Bologna. All modern universities are secular/research based institutions following the humboldtian model.

When harvard decided to transform from a religious institution to a modern university, they didn't look to bologna.


Wait, to be a university you now have to have accreditation? That's part of your definition?

> A 1643 publication defined the university's purpose

In 1643. Harvard had changed quite a lot well before 1810.




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