> You can start with the deafening silence regarding the treatment the people who have been locked up for the last 2 years for being accused of trespassing in the Capitol on Jan 6th.
From what I've seen their treatment hasn't been much different from what other prisoners experience. Sadly, a certain segment of the population believes that it's preferable for prisons to be inhumane and they've been fighting against efforts to reform the prison system my whole life.
> You could look at the (mostly minority) young men who are being railroaded and destroyed by Kafkaesque Title IX rules at colleges.
I agree that Title IX rules are a terrible problem, and that this is an area where I personally disagree with the ALCU's stance, but they haven't been ignored by civil rights groups either.
> You think the ACLU of today would take the same, principled stand on a KKK march in Skokie, like they did in 1978?
I agree that the organization has changed and I personally feel that they are not as reputable as they once were, but then again, the ACLU is not the only civil rights group in the country. It's not really a problem that different groups have different focuses. Nobody complains when the NRA doesn't oppose forced labor in prisons.
Some of what you'd call "social justice" is civil rights activism. They aren't unrelated things that have to be shoehorned together. There's a lot of overlap between them. it's not an either or problem although it does sometimes provoke some interesting conflicts. The rights of minority men vs the rights of privileged women in title ix kangaroo courts for example. The winner of the Oppression Olympics in a particular case might be judged differently by different civil rights groups but I've never seen a situation where there weren't people fighting the injustices found on both sides. That's the thing to keep in mind really. People who support civil rights are all fighting for the same thing in the end, even when we're coming at the problem from different sides.
You mean this silence? https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/aclu-capitol-rioters...
From what I've seen their treatment hasn't been much different from what other prisoners experience. Sadly, a certain segment of the population believes that it's preferable for prisons to be inhumane and they've been fighting against efforts to reform the prison system my whole life.
Additional context:
https://apnews.com/article/records-rebut-claims-jan-6-rioter...
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/10/why-investigatin...
> You could look at the (mostly minority) young men who are being railroaded and destroyed by Kafkaesque Title IX rules at colleges.
I agree that Title IX rules are a terrible problem, and that this is an area where I personally disagree with the ALCU's stance, but they haven't been ignored by civil rights groups either.
https://www.thefire.org/proposed-title-ix-regulations-would-...
> You think the ACLU of today would take the same, principled stand on a KKK march in Skokie, like they did in 1978?
I agree that the organization has changed and I personally feel that they are not as reputable as they once were, but then again, the ACLU is not the only civil rights group in the country. It's not really a problem that different groups have different focuses. Nobody complains when the NRA doesn't oppose forced labor in prisons.
Some of what you'd call "social justice" is civil rights activism. They aren't unrelated things that have to be shoehorned together. There's a lot of overlap between them. it's not an either or problem although it does sometimes provoke some interesting conflicts. The rights of minority men vs the rights of privileged women in title ix kangaroo courts for example. The winner of the Oppression Olympics in a particular case might be judged differently by different civil rights groups but I've never seen a situation where there weren't people fighting the injustices found on both sides. That's the thing to keep in mind really. People who support civil rights are all fighting for the same thing in the end, even when we're coming at the problem from different sides.