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They do for regular users who use typical end user apps it doesn't just work for devs.

Apple is not designing OS for devs their vast majority of users are not devs or even professionals these days, while macs can be used for development with some wrangling to get a POSIX like environment without too much performance loss, it is not linux. Docker will run in a VM and be slower and some basic stuff like procfs would be completely missing , most of their gnu utils are from late 80s GPL being the reason.

I am also moving back to apple largely because of the m1x performance and battery. Hope Asahi becomes very stable soon on M1



> Apple is not designing OS for devs their vast majority of users are not devs or even professionals these days

yeah. So why are so many devs more or less forced to use MacBooks? someone tell their CTOs


I am a CTO and I use a system76[1] I would rather my devs used Linux systems, for a long time I did only deploy only Linux ThinkPads, but devs want MacBooks- even more so after M1 launched. A few have turned down offers because we didn't offer macs. Now we basically allow them to choose, but in the recent past not a single one has not chosen Apple .

I don't think it is all just CTOs either, there is lot of aspirational value partly driven by design of the system (light weight/looks) partly because expensive it becomes more exclusive.

Without M1 there was nothing else to go for technically they were not that much better, now atleast post m1 there is value to maybe justify the costs.

TCO for ThinkPads are way cheaper than macs upgrades are possible when it is not on macs or easier you don't need to send it apple service for ages, the in-house IT has no shortage of spare parts . No sensible CTO is going to choose apple over anything else if he had choice .

[1] ThinkPad X1 carbon before that both were much better devices just in terms of build quality than my last mac the 2016 pro .

Having linux just work is worth investing in frame.work or system76 or dell developer edition I rather do actual work than fiddle with drivers .


> Now we basically allow them to choose, but in the recent past not a single one has not chosen Apple .

I think that's awesome, and I would feel great about starting at a place that gave devs a choice between System76 and Apple.

> Having linux just work is worth investing in frame.work or system76 or dell developer edition I rather do actual work than fiddle with drivers .

Agreed! There are fun and sometimes productive forms of tinkering with Linux. Fighting incompatible hardware is not among them


The choice is usually Linux ThinkPads and Apple. System76 is great and I love it, however parts and availability of support globally is definitely limited to consider wide scale deployment. There is also reuse flexibility for returned thinkpads that can be given to for windows users .

Having said that if a employee requested system76 or frame.work I would happily get it. Sadly like I said everyone wants Macs.




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