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Except not all Germans live in Munich, Europe's biggest property bubble. There are affordable cities in Germany that are cheaper than Vienna, if we keep moving the goal posts.


Not all Austrians live in Vienna. There are afordable cities in Austria that are cheaper than Vienna.

Munich is the only city in Germany that I can think of that's comparable to Vienna in terms of wealth, demand and size though.

So I don't see how this is moving the goalposts.


>There are afordable cities in Austria that are cheaper than Vienna.

That's exactly what I said. What's your point in the end?

>Munich is the only city in Germany that I can think of that's comparable to Vienna in terms of wealth, demand and size though.

"$EXPENSIVE_CITY in the country I live in, is less expensive than $EXPENSIVE_CITY with higher wages in another country I don't live in."

Great, how does that help me? I'm sure rent is even more expensive in SF or NY but I don't compete on the jobs or rental market with those over there. Whataboutism doesn't pay my rent or feed my kids.


>That's exactly what I said. What's your point in the end?

Turning it around since I don't see your point. Comparing to smaller, and/or less in demand, less wealthy cities doesn't give a good comparison to whether rent control/social housing in Vienna works or not.


Because as you put it, >"The measure I would apply is whether middle class people can live in the city", there are cities in Austria that are much cheaper for the middle class, as I said in the original post.

The fact that there are cities in Germany, or in any other country, that are even more expensive is irrelevant for the people here.




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