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Back then, looking native was the most important thing. Today it seems electron apps can get away with looking anything but native - so perhaps it’s time to resurrect some other desktop frameworks (I just recently started working with JavaFX and I really like it so far. Unfortunate that it is so niche)


My problem with the default Swing theme, and any theme in Java at the time, was that they were so ridiculously ugly compared to the system default.

It wasn’t exactly easy to make your own theme either. Something that HTML allows without almost without thinking.


Yeah, I agree. But Swing has some cool themes nowadays. (And JavaFX is pretty easy to theme, but I have not yet tried it extensively)


I think the issue with Swing was that is was in a bit of an uncanny valley. If all controls were custom it wouldn't look strange.

Visual Basic was very... well, "basic", so it looked normal. Some tools like CCleaner and a lot of Antiviruses had fully custom looks, but didn't look out of place, because they were too different.

JavaFX looks fine, though.




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