> Is there a variation on "straw man" that's more like "shadow boxing", where someone grossly misunderstands what someone's saying and then argues against their own misunderstanding?
Are you accusing me of strawmaning great wisdom of people that didn't have a single measurement device they could apply to what's above their heads?
I read in less then 2000 year old writings of a philosopher that everybody knows that though diamonds are hard, they can be split with goats blood. Should I think deeply about it and come up with charitable interpretation because people back then weren't stupid? Lack of data makes regularly smart people create weird beliefs.
> I've never heard any reference to the sky being blue because there's water there
'Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.'
Firmament is the thing that stars lie onto. So definitely there's saying about waters (not some special waters like clouds but plain usual waters just the same as the ones below the firmament).
Association with sky color blue is my own specific idea about why would anyone in their right mind speak about waters above in exactly the same way as terrestrial waters. I'd even call this interpretation of mine, charitable.
> People 4000 years ago weren't stupid. Everyone knows rain comes from clouds, not from a blue sky.
Ah, but where the clouds come from? Was it also that obvious that they don't come from blue sky?
> My interpretation
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> The "waters above" were the clouds.
Are clouds mentioned any more than color blue?
Other than that, wonderful interpretation of something that didn't happen and even if it did it couldn't be observed, because on day 4 the only living things were plants.
Are you accusing me of strawmaning great wisdom of people that didn't have a single measurement device they could apply to what's above their heads?
I read in less then 2000 year old writings of a philosopher that everybody knows that though diamonds are hard, they can be split with goats blood. Should I think deeply about it and come up with charitable interpretation because people back then weren't stupid? Lack of data makes regularly smart people create weird beliefs.
> I've never heard any reference to the sky being blue because there's water there
'Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.'
Firmament is the thing that stars lie onto. So definitely there's saying about waters (not some special waters like clouds but plain usual waters just the same as the ones below the firmament).
Association with sky color blue is my own specific idea about why would anyone in their right mind speak about waters above in exactly the same way as terrestrial waters. I'd even call this interpretation of mine, charitable.
> People 4000 years ago weren't stupid. Everyone knows rain comes from clouds, not from a blue sky.
Ah, but where the clouds come from? Was it also that obvious that they don't come from blue sky?
> My interpretation
...
> The "waters above" were the clouds.
Are clouds mentioned any more than color blue?
Other than that, wonderful interpretation of something that didn't happen and even if it did it couldn't be observed, because on day 4 the only living things were plants.