It's a bit of a reminder that Google is under US jurisdiction and there's a point to be made that, no matter what they promise you, if the US wants their data, they get their data.
More competition can only be good, if this leads to the Chinese creating a third major platform, I welcome it. If they open source it, they may even have success outside of China.
If you’re Chinese, having another domestic platform is a good and important thing towards self determination. Not so great if you’re American, as they’re playing for winner-takes-all.
"is a good and important thing towards self determination"
This is a lark?
The only thing the CPC is interested in is total and absolute control of the citizenry.
They'd love to have a platform for which they didn't have to monitor with gazillions of staff, and have police on corners to ensure 'government monitoring' is properly installed.
Imagine if the CPC could ensure total thought control without all the overhead?
That is exactly the objective.
There's nothing stopping 1 billion people from developing a mobile platform - or any kind of platform for that matter in 2019.
They can do it now. Or yesterday.
And the 'whole world' could be using it.
Consider for a moment why it's not happening?
Why isn't the entire world using software or hosted solutions for all of our SaaS needs in India and China?
Given that the existential nature of the Chinese economy is intertwined with the CPC, I don't think any good will come of this.
A lot of the comments and thinking abound 'trade with China' are centered around a view that it's a normal economy, but it isn't, so the regular rules don't quite apply.
In the grand grand scheme of things, Huawei is a small thing, we're seeing a realignment of forces given the new reality of China's competitive powers, irrespective of anything else.
It's hard to say where the new equilibrium will land.
> Why isn't the entire world using software or hosted solutions for all of our SaaS needs in India and China?
Because the tech has been developed in the US, and the US has lead in it ever since.
> Given that the existential nature of the Chinese economy is intertwined with the CPC, I don't think any good will come of this.
I mean, the article being discussed here shows that US corporations are tools of US foreign policy. Yes, it's a different style of control, but it's control nonetheless.
And before the notorious flaggers run wild: I don't like the Chinese model. I don't particularly like the US model either though. I'm not judging those that profit from it for also liking it. I'm sure I would, too.
Maybe. I'd prefer that neither of them have my data.
I do believe that competition limits the exploits. If there's an alternative, you have to fear losing your customers (and their money), so you limit what you do to them. If there isn't any, why would you? Right now, the competition is basically only Apple vs Google. Both USA, both from California. A bit more diversity would be nice.
Yeah, too bad FirefoxOS never made it too far. Unfortunately, it would still be only "kind of" competition: still US-based, still in California, still financed & owned by the same (group of) people.
I'd love some real competition. Chinese, Russian, European alternatives. I would have a hard time trusting Chinese or Russian systems, maybe rightfully, maybe because decades of Propaganda have taken their toll. I'd still like to see them.
Neither can be trusted to retain a glass of water, let alone personally identifying information that can spur advertising campaigns and sway elections in countries around the world.
It's a bit of a reminder that Google is under US jurisdiction and there's a point to be made that, no matter what they promise you, if the US wants their data, they get their data.
More competition can only be good, if this leads to the Chinese creating a third major platform, I welcome it. If they open source it, they may even have success outside of China.