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> he does almost the same thing as what he is fighting against in US

That's baloney, they are not remotely the same thing.



"As expected, Apple CEO Tim Cook accepted the Free Expression Award at the Newseum in Washington D.C. tonight. At the event, Cook was presented the award and made brief comments on what it means to him and Apple, as well as touching on the importance of companies taking a stance…" [1]

[1] - https://9to5mac.com/2017/04/18/tim-cook-free-expression-awar...


I'm not disputing the idea that Tim Cook has taken stances on certain issues including human rights. I'm disputing the idea that by complying with a Chinese law means he's "doing almost the same thing as what he's fighting against". That's rubbish.


All gay internet content is illegal in China[1].

By blocking VPNs, Tim Cook is helping to ban all gay content.

[1] http://fortune.com/2017/06/30/china-homosexuality-internet-w...


are you suggesting that apple engage in illegal activities?


Do you consider Google to be engaging in illegal activities by refusing to censor content according to China's wishes? Then yes, I am suggested Apple engage in illegal activities.


consider? the law is the law. apple will simply be subjected to massive damage.


Will Google?

"The law is the law" is a very simplistic way of looking at things.

Laws can be challenged in court. Google is doing that with a Canadian law right now[1].

Laws can be found unconstitutional. Laws can be overturned. Laws can be repealed.

Laws can be unenforced. For example smoking weed in Colorado. A simple "the law is the law" outlook might conclude that it's illegal to sell weed in Colorado, and any business doing so "will simply be subjected to massive damage".

Laws can be interpreted and misinterpreted by judges, lawyers, prosecutors, etc. Smart people can disagree about what a law means. Some interpretations say anyone under 13 who reads the New York Times website is a criminal under the CFAA[2].

Some people argue that the average person commits 3 felonies a day[3].

[1] https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/07/google-sues-in-u...

[2] https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/04/are-you-teenager-who-r...

[3] https://www.amazon.com/Three-Felonies-Day-Target-Innocent/dp...


until a law is removed from the books, it remains the law.

none of these other details are particularly relevant to obeying the law when it is in effect.


If a law is on the books but completely unenforced, how is it relevant?

Apple should obey every old illogical law from 200 years ago that's never enforced, and is actually harmful if followed?

Many of the other details are relevant as well. Apple could obey the law and challenge it, like Google is doing with the Canadian law.


I am sure a lot of leaders in china do not agree with what is going on there and draconian laws but they can't say anything against it since they will lose control and revenue if they get dropped from the top. Same with apple, it might not agree with what they are doing but they are too worried about their revenue stream to speak up against it. The difference is that at least Chinese don't act like hypocrites in this case. They don't proclaim to be fighters for human rights and freedoms.

Same thing is happening in Russia for example with corruption. A lot of new people who come work in higher positions just could not go agains the corrupted system, if someone that has control over their position tells them to do something, they will do it because otherwise they will be end up with no job and money. Those who speak up without worrying about their lost revenue are the real heros, not Tim Cook who was made look like one with his recent announcements


Many of these specific laws are very directly anti-free-expression. Complying there while accepting a free expression award is about as clear as possible an example of "doing almost the same thing as what he's fighting against".


"complying"... the law is the law. behaving in an illegal manner which will only get you shutdown doesn't seem like a great strategy.


Shutting down voluntarily is also legal. Remember that the question wasn't about business strategy. The question is whether he is "doing almost the same thing as what he's fighting against". And the answer seems to be yes.

Expensive options are not the only way to solve this dilemma. They could simply amend their position on free expression to explain why this is an exception. Such an explanation might not even reflect badly on them.




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