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Racism - http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-37230916

Sexist - ... Not going to link it - I'm yet to hear Hillary's version of "I can walk right up to men and grab them on the cock". This is a one way street. I actually would struggle to think of any prominent female who would act in the same manner of openly stating they can abuse a person such (and even to try and recant this later)

Vengeful narcissism - Despite being cleared of any charges, he openly alludes to the imprisonment of his opposition: http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/11/03/trump-ril...

Do you acknowledge any of these? Dispute video evidence? The sources?

I am genuinely perplexed you seem to believe there is no evidence, however it seems you have a shifted-goalposts view of what constitutes "sexism" "racism"or "vengeful narcissism".

If you disagree with my post - which is a high probability - can we try a thought exercise?

Describe a scenario that you believe would be scandalous sexism if Trump mete out that act. I am interested to see the threshold that needs to be met to constitute as "sexism" under your rubric.



Can you explain how you arrive at your labels from these edited-together quotes? Here's Trump's first quote, in its entirety:

> “When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.”

I don't see who this is racist towards. Illegal immigrants from Mexico are a pretty specific group, and do not represent a race.

> I actually would struggle to think of any prominent female who would act in the same manner of openly stating they can abuse a person such (and even to try and recant this later)

https://hequal.wordpress.com/2015/04/01/kill-all-men-fk-men-...

> Vengeful narcissism - Despite being cleared of any charges, he openly alludes to the imprisonment of his opposition

I don't understand how the article supports your point at all. His statements follow Comey's remark to the Senate. This kind of statement is very common. I can point to many situations off the top of my head, where people, after being cleared of charges, are still considered guilty for something and hounded by their opposition - Zimmerman, Ghomeshi, the Duke lacrosse team... I just don't see the connection to "vengeful narcissism", I think it's an understandable emotional reaction when you don't get the expected outcome of the wrongly-labeled "justice" system.


The Mexican example isn't racism. If you turn it around and look at US citizens that are fleeing the US to Mexico, it wouldn't surprise me if they also were more likely to be criminals. If you're running from the police - on either side - you'd want to hop the border, and not because either Mexicans or US citizens are genetically prone to being rapists.

Stefan Molyneux had a great video on this subject, with some actual facts:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GN_FOCF3vIQ


Washington Post tried to analyze the data and reached a conclusion that Trump was wrong - https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2015/07/...

American thinker did a meta-analysis and found WaPo to be misleading - http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2015/07/illegal_alie...

Personally, I am ambivalent precisely due to the difficulty of tracking these statistics. The raw numbers used are public and quoted in both pieces.

Off-topic, that Molyneux video is HD which is incredibly pleasing on the eyes. Thank you for that. :)


Living in a foreign country is pretty tough. It's also pretty tough to try to do so illegally. It's not the sort of thing one undertakes lightly. As a criminal, moving to a country where you don't speak the language, where you face discrimination, where you have no social network, and an extremely well funded police force, would be a stupid move.

I was an illegal immigrant at one point. I couldn't make it work. Restricting people who want to come to a country to improve their lives is indefensible. If the word for that isn't "racism" it must be "stupidity".


> Restricting people who want to come to a country to improve their lives is indefensible

Pretty much all the countries in the world do that. Mexico is extremely lucky to have a physical border with the US that you can walk/climb over. How could a Burmese or Nigerian citizen emigrate to US (or any other Western country) illegaly?


> I'm yet to hear Hillary's version of "I can walk right up to men and grab them on the cock".

"Keep your mouth shut about my husband raping you, or you'll be sorry." I mean yeah, I know she was savvy enough not to let herself be caught on tape saying it, so it never happened, and the multiple women attesting it are liars and they're bought and they're liars. Clearly some barnyard language is the really reprehensible thing here.

And he's far from the only one to suggest she merits indictment. Do you remember Comey's first final statement on the email investigation? The one in which he said, boiled down, that while he'd absolutely recommend anyone else who'd done the same be indicted, this was, for reasons left as an exercise to the reader, a special case?


>I'm yet to hear Hillary's version of "I can walk right up to men and grab them on the cock"

"Women have always been the primary victims of war. Women lose their husbands, their fathers, their sons in combat." --Hilary Clinton

Not that this quote is anywhere near equivalent. It's far more egregious. Trump made a lame comment, in a private situation, about how he picks up women. Clinton, in an official capacity as First Lady of the United States, said she view men as so unimportant that they are not the primary victims in their own deaths.




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