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What’s the purpose of licensing requiring though things though if someone could just use an open source model to do that anyway? If someone were going to do those things you mentioned why do it through some commercial enterprise tool? I can see maybe licensing requiring a certain level of hardening to prevent prompt injections, but ultimately it still really comes down to how much power you give the model in whatever context it’s operating in.


Dang so this is much more comprehensive than a normal polygraph. I know the write up says it would be almost impossible to beat, but is that true?


Well the FBI prosecuted a guy who provided training on how to beat it.


Indeed, the FBI participated in the criminal investigation of the late Doug Williams, who offered training on how to pass or beat a polygraph "test." Because there was no actual crime for which to prosecute him, federal agents set out to stage one in a "sting" operation they dubbed "Operation Lie Busters":

https://antipolygraph.org/blog/2016/04/26/operation-lie-bust...


Yes, the polygraph has one purpose, instill fear. It's an over the top interrogation. Level 1 torture.


Can you elaborate on the mechanical point you mentioned? And by someone needed collateral, does that mean whoever it was bought ORCL at that time to hold as collateral? How do you even figure that out?


>Can you elaborate on the mechanical point you mentioned?

Not really, because I don't really understand the specifics myself. I guess it's a situation where you either believe the conspiracy theories or you don't. I've still yet to have someone explain how a company like Oracle could jump 40% in a day and it not be either Dot Com Bust-level speculation, or else someone holding Oracle needing the company to be at a certain valuation. Things happened the day before the jump, and a week after it, Oracle was signing a deal to integrate with TikTok.


I circled back to this, The only mechanics I can think of and I’m not sure if it’s really even really a thing (maybe someone can chime in) is that market makers buying shares to cover their calls or something along those lines? How does one even really trace this type of transaction?


When you say debt financing (Oracle) does that mean Oracle is actually financing the loans to these other companies? Sorry if I'm misunderstanding.


They’re saying that Oracle has issued a lot of debt (like $60Bn) to fund their AI/datacenter commitments. Where as other companies, like MSFT, are using the cash in their balance sheet, and startups are using the cash they’ve gotten from investors


Forreal that’s what really gets me about this haha. Literally billions of dollars burned on bullshit.


I did not get him running for president from this. Which part made you think that?


Granted I'm taking creative liberties reading between the lines and mapping to other context. I'd give it low odds overall, but I'm gleaning a non-zero likelihood worthy of consideration:

1. "Mark Zuckerberg has been cast as the spokesman for the Millennial generation."

2. "I am the most well-known person of my generation"

3. "we'll even see a millennial president within the next few cycles by 2032."

4. The direct comparison to Pete Buttigieg.

5. He's signaled a presidential bid in the recent past.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/alexkantrowitz/mark-zuc...

Some additional interpretation of mine from the exchange:

6. The expressed need to "win" in the policy arena in the next few years.

7. The imminent "transfer of value" (and power) from boomers to millennials, and the explicit urgency and intent to "position" themselves to capitalize on this "rapid shift."

Further real world context:

8. Thiel's track record of hands on political involvement with Trump, Vance, and Yarvin.

9. Thiel's recent "antichrist" lectures which articulates a fear of being "scapegoated."


I am building a new rig after years of solely using a MacBook, and reading all these horror stories of windows 10/11 I am just gonna go with Ubuntu. I may dual boot with windows but only if really needed.


Ubuntu is Debian with some MICROS~1 thrown in. Just go with Debian and tell the installer you want non-free stuff if you need certain drivers.


Debian as a first time Linux user seems painful. Unless you enjoy spending hours and hours setting up a computer. Mint is still the simplest for me.


Why would it take "hours and hours"?


Every time I make this statement about Linux not being beginner friendly on Hacker News, there's always a reply about how so very pain free and easy it is.

If Linus Torvalds of all people is complaining about how much of a pain in the ass Debian can be to install, it's going to be a pain in the ass. Hell, Mint had countless issues I had to monkey patch and would break if I looked at it funny.

You cannot expect a beginner user to touch a command line or even think about desktop environments. We're computer nerds here but sometimes the expectation that booting from an ISO or making disk partitions is easy for the average person grossly overestimates the average person's desire to debug and fight with their computer.

Seriously, ask your Grandma to install Debian on her Windows computer by herself and see what happens.


I don't get the impression that you actually help people migrate to Linux.

When I do, I give them a flash drive and if necessary help them change the boot order, then they just answer what they understand and accept defaults on the rest. This typically works well and they are surprised that when install is done, it's really done, no messing about with license keys and downloading install binaries and whatnot.


Maybe not to install, but to chose what to install. Saying "install Debian instead of Ubuntu" is not a complete answer, because you have to select a window manager as well. If you go "pure" Debian, what should you then select? GNOME, KDE, cinnamon, xfce, Mate...?

It's an easier path to go with Linux Mint or Ubuntu. Less overwhelming choices when you just want to get started. Linux Mint is good for people used to Windows as it feels familiar. If you still want to go "pure" Debian you can use LMDE (Linux Mint Debian Edition).


Just go with the XFCE ISO and say you want to have non-free stuff, choose your locale and say yes to the partition plan, and you're done in like twenty minutes unless your storage is very slow.


Thanks. Well, in that case I would for sure select KDE Plasma over XFCE as it feels more modern from a design point of view and for someone coming from Windows or MacOS they would probably feel more at home.


I wouldn’t say this lends to a bias of over-engineering but more so psc optimizing


“No one will ever find these vulns without source access! Fix deferred” oh wait…


Yeah, I was trying to make sense of what was described here.

Is it that (through some mechanism) an actor gained access to F5's sytems, and literally found undisclosed vulnerabilities documented within F5's source control / documentation that affects F5's products?

If so, lol.


A simple search across a codebase for "TODO" will find all sorts of things left undone, but having access to source control and commit messages, who knows what you might find.

"Here be dragons" is also a good search if you're responsible for security hardening legacy code.


Yeah, it's unclear if this is something like TODO or an internal Jira tracking bugs.

Either way though, this is not a small company. DoD/Navy utilizes this all over their systems. TODO shouldn't be getting pushed to main, nor should there be security issues swept under the rug for later.

Maybe they disclosed this to some vendors previously, but I doubt.


Yeah that’s what I’m understanding is the case. That’s why they’re harping on no known (unreleased) vulns. But it’s kinda funny, a lot of times bugs that fall under this category are constantly shuffled around/not fixed because there is no public pressure to address them.


Our political leaders refuse to even say the word genocide - I don’t think they give damn.


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