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What year does NOAA choose as the beginning for "record"? It's relevant to the discussion.

Earth is 4.5 billion years old.

Humans have existed for 200,000 years.

This all comes off as political or quasi-religious because I can assure you that the author knows average people will read that headline and assume "begining of time". Hence I call bullshit.


You read the headline yourself and went off asking a dumb question that's answered in the article.

'On record' implies 'since we started keeping records' and that length of time is specifically stated in the article.

The headline isn't "July was Earth’s hottest month ever" - that's the clickbait headline that would justify your reaction.


What matters is the climate equilibrium that we and the ecosystems we depend on evolved under. Most of Earth's history would be totally uninhabitable for humans ourselves, nevermind those ecosystems. Using the argument of the total time that Earth has existed or previous climate fluctuations totally misses the point.

It doesn't matter what happened millennia ago, what matters is how rapidly things are changing now.


I call bullshit on your half baked retort. How is the short precarious lives of the very few early humans relevant to greenhouse earth 2021?


Probably since humans started recording? Doesn’t seem that misleading to me.


Technically true but not really relevant.


Do you guys think the mid-late 20th century phenomena of fat = bad, sugar = no comment, has anything to do with this battle?


Interestingly, the whole thing now seems to have turned into the opposite. sugar = bad, fat = good. But that is not true. Sugar is actually only problematic because it's a bit addictive and it's easy to eat a lot of it. The real problem is taking in too many calories (in whatever form) and/or burning too few.


Carbs cause a sugar rush and after the pancreas deals with it, you get hungry again a couple of hours later. This is why people snack between meals, increasing their caloric intake. If you avoid carbs and focus on proteins and healthy fats, you can go 4, 6 or even 8 hours without getting hungry, effectively reducing your caloric intake.


Yes, t had a lot to do with it.

The war against salt, also.


As a millennial, I remember my Mom buying those Snack well cookies for herself, thinking they were more healthy than traditional cookies. I assume they compensated for less fat with added sugar.


The West has the same thing. Journalists have had their bank accounts closed over political commentary. Classic social credit system.


The United States, Western Europe and Australia are totalitarian.

Something both true and much harder to say than China.


Extraordinary claims need extraordinary evidence.


In Australia you are forbidden to communicate with fellow citizens in public.

I don't recall China demanding that. You guys live in a bubble.


That's Australia only and (hopefully) temporary. Do agree that it has authoritarian aspects to it.


cOnSpIrAcY tHeOrY


You have to love the fact checks on this story.

https://healthfeedback.org/claimreview/darpa-developed-a-hyd...

>Inaccurate: The sensor can only detect the presence of an infection but cannot identify the pathogen responsible for the infection. In addition, the sensor only tests an individual's blood and is unable to track a person's location.

>Imprecise: The researchers at the U.S. Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) developed a sensor (not a microchip) that tests blood for early markers of infection, such as a sudden decrease in oxygen levels.

So what exactly does the sensor interface with? A network connected wearable of course. Feel comfortable monitoring grandma's health on your tablet while slicing cabbages in the kitchen. Just check Profusa's own promotional YouTube video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwn7UoxiLNk

Please ignore the privacy implications of wearable tech. Ignore the intelligence services' stated intentions to leverage IoT for data collection.

https://www.wired.com/2012/03/petraeus-tv-remote/

>CIA Chief: We'll Spy on You Through Your Dishwasher - It's great that you've got so much new household hardware connected to the internet. Especially for the CIA, whose director wants to spy on you through it


The author of this piece, Kevin Drum on 7/15/19 - "Reactionary American whites, as always, won’t give up their power unless it’s taken from them....Liberals need to be as Lincolnesque as possible in this endeavor, but we also need to be Lincolnesque in our commitment to winning America’s latest race war."

My point - that kind of extreme rhetoric, borderline sociopathic, certainly racist, is behind much of America's "rising rage".


I sent AOC a dm on Twitter when she had them open asking how on Earth she doesn't pursue a drone delivery ban, considering how many delivery drivers it would put out of work. No answer.


I'm not a dev, I just like tech stuff. I say this because I actually work with lower middle class Black and Brown people, though I'm White and lower middle class.

Let me explain something to you guys, we worked through each "wave" and didn't really care. We were not "forced" to work. It was never a big deal.

The whole "woe is the working class during Covid" was just an excuse for neurotic professional class workers to WFH.


"We study the spread of COVID-19 infections and deaths by county poverty level in the US. In the beginning of the pandemic, counties with either very low poverty levels or very high poverty levels reported the highest numbers of cases. A U-shaped relationship prevails for counties with high population density while among counties with low population density, only poorer counties report high incidence rates of COVID-19. Second, we discuss the pattern of infections spreading from higher to lower income counties. Third, we show that stay-at-home mandates caused significantly higher reductions in mobility in high income counties that experienced adverse weather shocks than counties that did not. These effects are not present in counties with high poverty rates. Using weather shocks in combination with stay-at-home mandates as an instrument for social distancing, we find that measures taken to promote social distancing helped curb infections in high income counties but not in low income counties. These results have important policy implications for containing the spread of infectious diseases in the future." (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7756168/)


Thank you


Does anyone believe this will be expanded to grocery stores, pharmacies and other basic services come fall? My job is already close to pushing mandatory vaccination and I'm trying to decide whether I should pack up my things and leave?

30 year resident and heartbroken.


Do you really believe that mandatory vaccination is the start of some expansion of government checking on everything? I'm seriously asking, like you already need a drivers license to drive, you put in taxes and the government keeps those in a central database, if you have kids in school they need to be vaccinated in most places I read in this thread. Why would covid vaccination suddenly trigger some government panopticon? they already have so much information on you, why would this be the hill you die on?


If this is a good faith question that's fine. A health passport to buy groceries is the hill to die on because you are consenting to a lifetime of injections just to live.

No one should be under the impression that the next booster won't be mandated. You give these people an inch and they take a mile.

And it's also not a government thing. I would think that the White House is upset with New York's decision because they preferred private business restrict access to the unvaccinated, New York might have jumped the gun, revealed the play etc.


Thanks for answering. I do feel that government isn't anywhere near organised enough to exercise this sort of control. I've worked for a couple of different government organisations and they are in general, people who just want to do their job and go home. Like I'm not sure why vaccination cards would be the thing I'd choose if I wanted to control a population, that already has a myriad of different controls anyway (drivers license, tax records etc), when you travel overseas you already need vaccination records for various things, or when you send kids to school. The lifetime of injections is not guaranteed at this stage either, no doubt a better vaccine will come along. Thanks for answering anyway, I'm curious why this is such an emotional issue for some people.


Getting ready to leave my blue state home. Born and raised in California, but the autoritarian writing is on the wall, and I'm making my preparations.


Sounds like you're going to vote accordingly when you do, I hope.


I've been against the grain here since my second presidential election as voting age


Probably inevitable, although this fall seems a bit too early. Also probably unenforceable in many areas of the city.


It's a serious question. Why downvote? Because you think it's coming but don't want to warn people?


Nice going New York City, banning 60% of Black residents from participating in life.


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