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Correct.

Haha. This will accomplish nothing, because the surveillance dragnet is built and used by the people themselves, who deliberately (ab)use the very technologies that enable this breach of privacy at scale. Can't have your cake and eat it too.

It will probably accomplish nothing for other reasons. There are secret laws in this country which violate the constitution. I don't think the average person appreciates privacy as much as they should. But saying they are complicit in the making of this mess is going way too far. There are not so many choices in tech as you think. The most private ones require high technical expertise, and involve risks other than those presented by corporate tech. For example, you may have to trust a small number of unpaid individuals (who may even be anonymous) to deliver software.

I don't actually see a problem with this bill. Law enforcement should have access to as many tools as possible to improve their solve rates. In Canada, the police can walk you to the shipping containers confirmed to contain your stolen vehicle, but do not "have the authority to open the containers." [0] I am all for expanding the authority of law enforcement if it means justice is served and people get their (for example) stolen vehicles, wallets, bank accounts, etc. back.

Everyone in opposition of this bill simply has something to hide and is afraid that perfectly lawful legislation such as this will expose their criminal activity.

[0] https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto-man-finds-stolen-truc...


Imagine people you disagree with, politically and ideologically, have come into power and they intend to abuse this new capability to harm you directly. That’s where you should want to draw the line at government restraint. Expect abuse and ill will, and you’ll see where the boundaries ought to be. Even if you agree with those in power now, expect power to shift and define potential for harm on that basis.

> Imagine people you disagree with, politically and ideologically, have come into power and they intend to abuse this new capability to harm you directly.

I don't need to imagine, it's already the case; Toronto is a neo-Stasi city. I am simply asking that these capabilities now be applied fairly, across the whole populace, and not just towards people those in power disagree with. Torontonians demonstrate they will sacrifice freedom for safety, and now should obtain neither.

Privacy and rule of law are illusions. On a national level, the invocation of the Emergencies Act to squash the trucker convoy protesters (those deplorables) was recently found "unreasonable:"

> While the extraordinary powers granted to the federal government through the Emergencies Act may be necessary in some extreme circumstances, they also can threaten the rule of law and our democracy

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/convoy-protest-emergencies-...


I can only imagine the delays and damage that police officers opening random shipping containers without a warrant would if it became normalised. Saying "it's definitely one of those" is a rather big claim for someone who hasn't experienced the extreme unreliability of GPS and other radio systems on container yards. I feel bad for the yard personnel needing to re-sealing (and convince the shipping container owner that the seal was broken for a good reason) every single container in that GPS dead zone because there's an air tag beeping somewhere.

The story ends with the police indicating that they do actually have the power to retrieve the car, the officers just didn't want to use their powers in that case.

Nothing in your anecdote would go any differently with these new powers. The police officers refusing to take timely action would still refuse to take action, but now they also know the kind of porn you like. Good for them, I suppose?

I can make sweeping generalizations and baseless accusations too. Everyone in support of this bill is a filthy pervert with a voyeuristic relationship with their government, wishing to push their weirdness onto the rest of the population.


In East Germany typewriters were fingerprinted so police knew exactly who to look for.

Just solving crimes.


> It’s the asymmetric expectations—that one person can spew slop but the other must go full-effort—that for me personally feels disrespectful.

This has always been the case. Have some junior shit out a few thousand lines of code, leave, and leave it for the senior cleanup crew to figure out what the fuck just happened...


Yes, though usually setting up asymmetric expectations requires a power imbalance, so might instead be a PM or someone with influence but not technical acuity creating that initial kLoC.


> As a demonstration of the principle, consider two contradictory statements—"All lemons are yellow" and "Not all lemons are yellow"—and suppose that both are true.

I am not understanding why we are freely supposing both are true?


It's demonstrating the implications (principle of explosion) of a contradiction being allowed in a system of formal logic. You can change "suppose both are true" to "suppose the rules of a logical system permit stating both are true".

Ah, that last line made it make sense, thank you!

> You can change "suppose both are true" to "suppose the rules of a logical system permit stating both are true".

It's calling out a potential flaw in the system and whether we want to do anything about it.


Because the party has told you so, Winston!

> Something the Palestinians and the Arab countries have been unwilling to accept.

Seems to be a common trait amongst Palestinians: fighting losing wars and blowing up shit in the process because they are unable to accept reality.

The entire Middle East should just be glassed. Encase the holy lands in concrete and sink them into the Mediterranean.


Apparently, whoever society calls a Nazi. Something of a self fulfilling prophecy, that.

i have yet to see a good-faith use of this type of argument ("we're just calling anybody a nazi these days!"). to what end is this made, beyond concern trolling/sealioning/misdirectional use of pedantic and toothless "terminology" appeals?

it's especially concerning to see this argument used on a historical article contemporary with the NSDAP's control of Germany (and neighbors). yes, this refers to the "actual" nazis.


The end is simply to inform that crying wolf is not in anyone's interest but real Nazis'.

yeah this is exactly what i'm talking about. "real" nazis? they're all dead. people who walk, talk and act like real nazis? they're running very important parts of the US government right now.

All I can say is that you must be extremely sheltered to truly believe that. Real (neo)Nazis are alive and they want very actively to gun down nonwhites like myself in the street. Politicians who you don't agree with about the magnitude of immigration quotas are not the same thing, regardless of how often you pretend they are.

i don't think you and i actually disagree about any of what you're saying in this reply :)

I see the problem. You're supposed to read history in the other direction.

I get what you’re saying, but this is important enough that it doesn’t feel like nitpicking:

You’re not going to learn anything from history if you only read it in one direction.


Nah. Usually the racist fascist bullshit happens first and the Nazi label is then applied appropriately.

and then jews went and committed a genocide

"Claude, lift these weights for me."

We have machines lift weights for us all the time. Claude is a forklift for the mind, perhaps?

That has become pretty controversial recently, but I think the difference is that in software development, building knowledge is the work. You write software and simultaneously build expertise in your team regarding what the software does that allows you to maintain it and move forward.

Some of us hate this part. They don’t want to learn the domain to that degree. It’s not always the dumb ones either.

However there’s not a lot of overlap I’ve noticed between the craftsman crowd and that one.


Using forklifts has made us overall less healthy and less physically fit than moving things by hand

Will LLMs, "the forklifts of the mind" make us less mentally fit?

Seems like a pretty likely outcome to me


Strawman. Forklifts usually do work we physically can't do (or sometimes could do if ignoring personnel risks and costs).

> Forklifts usually do work we physically can't do

Is that any different from doing work we can do, but way faster than we could realistically do it?

Change the analogy to an excavator then. I could move a pile of dirt with a shovel, or I could write code with my brain

Or I could move a pile of dirt with an excavator or write code with an LLM


Doesn't matter when devs just slop out 400 lines of SQL and bypass the ORM.

Frameworks and structure will save you from neither stupidity nor ignorance.


If have a different opinion on this, as I think it's 100x better to learn sql and just write it directly instead of using the dozens of leaky abstraction of some framework.

That has always been the case, why would it be different now? Easy to flag and spot in code review.

Boy, I sure wish I had the opportunity to review codebases before inheriting them for maintenance...

I get your point but this is neither a Rails, nor an AI problem and as old as time.

I mean, I've seen enough "django specialists" to end up with queries doing a dozen of join bombs and producing 10 million rows from dataset of maybe 1000 items. So pretty safe to add "ORM" to your last statement.

Bingo. I have oft opined that the switch to an audiovisual culture was (bandwidth and compute gains notwithstanding) simply due to the piss poor ergonomics of the touch screen.

IRC was a literate culture, owing to its roots in the physical medium of the typewriter. It imposed technical barriers to entry selecting for a minimum of intelligence.

After kneecapping the literate media by destroying this input mechanism with touch screens, the audiovisual media flooded in to fill the vacuum - and brought with it the illiterate masses who now all see themselves as amateur videographers, unencumbered from the previous burdens of needing to "read the fucking manual."


That is a very interesting theory!

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