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Fun fact, George RR Martin still uses the MS-DOS version of Wordstar for his writing.


Given his (non-)performance, perhaps he should switch to something else?


the hardware/software combination is probably not the root cause


I’m still waiting for Patrick Rothfuss to finish his third book as well in the kingkiller chronicles.


I'm a great WordStar fan and I still use the MS-DOS version (ver 7) occasionally running under emulation in MS Windows. I still have archived documents that I wrote in WordStar in the 1980s and whenever I need to access them I'll fire up WS—it's easier than converting them to DOC/X or ODT format.

If I recall correctly Microsoft had a converter/import filter which would allow MS Word '97 to open a WordStar text file but they dropped it in Office 2000 although it was still available in O2K as a supplemental add-on.

In the '80s and early '90s I had WordStar running on three operating systems: Tandy TRS-DOS, CP/M (on a Godbout CompuPro 8/16) and an IBM compatible (AST). I always preferred WordStar to WordPerfect probably because I learned it first. Also, WS just seemed more 'streamlined'— quicker to use after the 'WS diamond' became second nature.

A couple of anecdotes, I still own a WordStar T-shirt with 'WordStar' emblazoned in 2" high lettering across the front. It still exists only because it was the last one the WS rep had and it was too small so it ended up a souvenir rather than being worn.

I must stress my comments only apply to the original versions of WS (3 to 7) and not WordStar 2000 which was a first-class flop. WS 2000 was the quintessential example of where a company attempted to update a very successful product and it failed miserably.

MicroPro, WS's developers, tried to respond to complaints that WS was difficult to learn (it wasn't of course), so with WS 2000 they attempted to simplify everything and in the process broke the very thing that made WordStar famous and loved by users—its wonderfully ergonomic CTRL key commands! We users were mightily pissed off, moreover potential new users couldn't see any advantage over WordPerfect—especially so after WS-2000 got such bad reviews from the tech press. It's worth reading the Wiki on this (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/WordStar).

What's more, yours truly made that abundantly clear to MicroPro at the time, in fact I couldn't have taken my complaint to a higher authority! The local WS rep—the one who gave me the T-shirt—knew me well as I was instrumental in having WordStar installed in the establishment where I worked and we purchased lots of copies. That pulled strings and he got me an intro to the top.

Just after WordStar 2000 was released there was a large computer show in Sydney and it was important enough for Seymour Rubinstein, the founder of MicroPro International, to cross the Pacific to promote his new product. Being a valued customer the local rep introduced me to Rubinstein and he (SR) invited me up to his hotel room for a discussion. Accompanying me was an IT colleague (a WS user) from another organisation.

Only three of us joined Rubinstein in his hotel room, the local WS rep my colleague and I. I'll spare you the lengthy, detailed and quite civilized discussion but after leaving hotel room I recall feeling sorry for Rubinstein because our arguments essentially left him defenseless.

I doubt very much that Rubinstein ever received a more intense ear-bashing about WS-2000 at any time let alone during his promotional tour (my colleague was just as didactic as I was, we made a formidable team).

I must stress again the discussion was cordial and friendly and our approach was positive and constructive but from Rubinstein's reaction there was no doubt in our minds that he knew that we users had very good reason not to adopt WS-2000.

Edit: I thought I ought to mention NewStar a similar program to WS developed by ex MicroPro employees. In many ways it was a clone of the original WS but included more advanced features. At the time there was no local importer so I imported several dozen copies (at one point I even contemplated becoming the local agent but it was complicated, also it was more expensive than WS so there was little margin in it.)


Look into the Unitarian Universalist (UU) church. I'm a recently retired atheist and moved to a new city. My wife was brought up UU and they welcome all beliefs. We started attending services at a local fellowship a month ago and have been welcomed and are starting to make some friends there.


As someone who has looked into it, it's unfortunately far from actually being a universal option in practice. I understand that my situation isn't typical, but the commute to an actually-inclusive UU congregation (there are "conservative" ones) would be a significant burden for me, whereas I could easily walk to the closest church that routinely funds "missions" to Africa to spread the "Good News".


This Philby story (father of the infamous double agent Kim Philby) is a key plot point in Tim Powers' book _Declare_. It's a mash up of a John le Carre spy novel with Lovecraft. One of Powers' best novels.


I love Declare, that's why I read The Empty Quarter (and Kim).


Nice to see NASM is still going strong. I used this for a class I taught back in the 90's. The class supported both Windows and Linux (but most students used Windows) and NASM supported both and was free.

I ended up creating my own free online textbook for the course. It's sorta out of date now since it was for 32-bit processors.


I've used nasm in industry as late as 4 years ago to assemble some bootloader code. It's great.


NASM is used in Tiano Core / EDK2 - "framework" for UEFI development

https://github.com/tianocore/tianocore.github.io/wiki/Gettin...


Maybe out of date for the desktop, but 32-bit systems continue to be relevant in embedded systems.


Still in use academically too - we used it in my compilers class last year.


Could you provide a link to the book?



Are you still working on the book? After digging old stuffs from university days (more than 1 decade), I found the old unfinished Indonesian translation. Perhaps I can finish it.


No, I'm not actively working on it. If I ever find the time, I might update it to 64-bit.


Paul Carter here. Yes, as someone already replied. It's online. I would have liked to update it to 64-bit, but I jumped to industry and don't have the time to do a decent job of it. I didn't realize that Randall had a 64-bit version out. I'm sure it's very good. We both used to hang out on comp.lang.asm.x86 back in the 90's.


Oh cool.

Thanks for making it available online.


_Advanced C++ Programming Styles and Idioms_ by James O. Coplien

It showed me how to really use C++ effectively back in the 1990's. It was at the time in a class by itself. (Pun intended).


I just recently started looking back at one of the groups I frequently read years ago and found that there was a small community still using it. Even recognized a few of them. The trolls and spammers were gone.



Crikey sci.electronics.design is a mess now (was active over 20 years ago on it).


rec.arts.sf.written was the one I was referring to.


Killfiles under slrn solved this fastly enough.


Really sad to hear this. The TRS-80 Model I was the first computer I ever owned in high school. I spend many, many hours programming on it. Taught myself BASIC and Z-80 assembly language on it. Definitely was a major factor in my professional life.


A friend of mine worked on the Model I OS, it was surprisingly sophisticated. I didn't own one, but borrowed a friends occasionally to play with.


I taught college CS for 10 years before moving to industry. Cheating wasn't a huge problem, but I did run have some issues.

Gave a makeup exam to one student with an altered programming problem than the original exam. The student answered the original problem, not the one on the exam they was given. That made it very clearcut.

I also had a written requirement that students must be able to explain their homework programs to me. Had a few that couldn't explain what parts of "their" own program was doing.


Most professionals don’t know parts of their SO copy pasta code does either


It was published 3 years before his death. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surely_You%27re_Joking,_Mr._Fe...!


Oh wow my mistake. Yes it is actually the sequel "what do you care what other people think" that was written after his death.

Yeah knowing he wrote it, I guess it does come off a little more egotistical than I at first assumed. Still a good book though.


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