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>the true purpose of crypt

Fraud?


Fraud is a tiny sliver and it would be unfair to judge crypto on that alone. There's also ransomware, extortion, payments for drugs and theft by North Korea hackers.


You missed arms dealing, human trafficking and sanctions avoidance, but then there seems to be a lot of cryptobros who would think those are features not bugs.


> there seems to be a lot of cryptobros who would think those are features not bugs.

That's an unfair generalization of a completely normal group of people who just want to own islands where age of consent doesn't exist.


Touche! They have gotten so innovative with it


But what about theft?


Clearly there are way too many bad actors now which makes it seem like a fraud to anyone from the outside


A system that enables a proliferation of fraudsters _might_ have an inherent flaw that needs addressing.


As if the banking system is any better. How can any legitimate payment system which has no cryptographic operations, is highly centralized, where the money can be printed out of thin air and way too many other reasons, be taken seriously?


Because it works, and we've developed massive institutions (the federal reserve, FDIC, SWIFT, credit rating agencies, and other financial market utilities) to keep it working in a way that benefits the vast majority of people that use money


I'm so glad to witness the evolution from "Revolutionize finance" to "No worse than banking most of the time, right?"


Somehow 99.999% of the world's economy takes place upon it. Is all economic activity from the advent of banks to now not to be taken seriously?


You've essentially just backed up the quote from your first post with this comment.


Because of their behavior? Violence was one of the main ways actors resolved conflicts in this period. Didn't like a new tax or that the King appointed his cousin or not your cousin Bishop? Revolt! Have a battle, whoever wins the fight gets his way.

Clovis I the would have absolutely used centralizing tools like railways and the telegraph to enforce his rule more uniformly and ensure his dynasty's success. He only reason why he didn't was because he couldn't.

Dark ages monarchs spent all their time trying to stabilize their regime and enforce their will on the society. We know this because we know how much time they spent marching around their areas putting down revolts and fighting off invasions.


> Violence was one of the main ways actors resolved conflicts in this period

Violence or threat of violence are still powerful tools.

> because we know how much time they spent marching around their areas putting down revolts and fighting off invasion

Medieval war was mostly seasonal. Also, war was mostly fought against neighbors or sometimes in the holy land. as far as revolts go, post-enlightenment slave revolts were much more common than revolts in the middle ages, though they're often not well-taught in schools. In today's world, my country is involved in hot and cold conflicts all over the world. I'd claim we're more warlike now because we can be.


Tough to know where to start. Pretty much every fact asserted in this piece is without any real evidence.

Starting at the end >This change occurred as a result of William the Conqueror’s defeat of Harold Godwinsson at the Battle of Hastings in 1066. As a result of this, William claimed that he had won the whole country by right of conquest. Every inch of land was to be his, and he would dispose of it as he thought fit.

>All land was thereafter owned by the crown. Perhaps in this can be found the seeds of the desire by the lords for the Magna Carta

This is simply not true that William claiming this was somehow new or novel. Lots of kings did this at the time. The Anglo-Saxons by Marc Morris illustrates this well.

Further, yes the dark ages were decentralized, but not at all because of the reasons in the piece. They were decentralized because the was an era of incredibly high friction. It took forever to get anywhere, to tell anything to anyone, to trade, to make deals, collaborate, to organize people. A bad harvest could wipe out a decade of hard labour building up a community. In that context there were just very few centriphical forces pulling things to the center.


It's even worse than this. One of the articles main sources is a Hans-Hermann Hoppe, an Economics Professor, not a historian who is at best cherry picking scholarship from 1914. At worst a bigot who has a history of making ignorant racial and homophobic comments and has a dedicated section in wikipedia just to this. Even worse his anti democratic, neo-feudal beliefs were influential to clowns like Curtis Yarvin and Javier Millei


If anyone's interested:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans-Hermann_Hoppe:

> Hans-Hermann Hoppe (/ˈhɒpə/;[5] German: [ˈhɔpə]; born 2 September 1949) is a German-American academic associated with Austrian School economics, anarcho-capitalism, right-wing libertarianism, and opposition to democracy.[6][7][8][9][10] He is professor emeritus of economics at the University of Nevada, Las Vegas (UNLV), senior fellow of the Mises Institute think tank, and the founder and president of the Property and Freedom Society.[11][12]


Anarcho-capitalism: for when you're fine with authoritarianism as long as it's not called a state


> Anarcho-capitalism: for when you're fine with authoritarianism as long as it's not called a state

It's the ununquadium of political ideologies: if it were ever realized it would immediately decay into something else.


This is the first I'm hearing about this.


Because no one wants to pay anyone for work


Before AI, it was called "outsourced to Philippines, India, or China."

AI (as Indian companies are currently panicking about) is good enough to mostly replace their role as the lower-tier budget option.


Why would I ever search on a ChatGPT - thats not what they are for. They are for helping summarize things, writing copy, designing excel. Making silly images.

Search is for finding specific websites and products. Totally different things.


America's ability to fail its citizens is truly limitless


Union now. Union tomorrow. Union Forever.


Alexa should be banned, and Amazon should be broken up into a dozen or so entities


But does anyone use them? Everyone org I've worked for and with - large government departments, publicly traded entities, small PE owned entities use excel.

As others say in this thread, the world runs on Excel.


Unionize. Collective action is the only way to stand up to Uber and co.


How?

There's no workplace to speak in hushed tones. There's no manager or de facto leader to make first contact with union representatives. There's no way to know when you've reached a quorum of local drivers.

Make no mistake, I sympathize with you. Rideshare/third-party delivery drivers have become America's new techno-feudalist underclass.


“It’s not unusual, except that Manna is telling you exactly what to do every second of every day. If it asks you to go to the back and get merchandise, it tells you exactly where to walk to go get it. And here is the weirdest part — I never see another employee the entire day. The way it makes me walk, I never run into anyone else. I can go for a full shift and never see another employee. Even our breaks are staggered. Everyone takes their breaks alone. We all arrive at staggered times. It’s like Manna is trying to totally eliminate human interaction on the job.”

All described in prescient classic: https://marshallbrain.com/manna1


this sounds like my personal nirvana no human contact but able to exist maybe the buddhists were right nirvana exists...


It wasn't "no human contact", it was "no contact with other employees/coworkers". Big difference.


restaurants/pickup you can just walk in with headphones wave and show phone customers usually want stuff left at door

no workplace cliques, meetings a win is a win. when I pray to the poofy guy in the sky I thank him for creating the humans that created this


The ADCU has been representing app drivers and couriers in the UK for years, but they're probably not the best model.

https://www.adcu.org.uk/

https://www.wired.com/story/adcu-gig-economy-union-toxic-rep...

The reality is that a large proportion of app workers are undocumented. Worker accounts are rented or sold to people who do not have the legal right to work. We can't reasonably address the issue of working conditions on these platforms if we don't acknowledge that fact.

https://inews.co.uk/news/deliveroo-uber-eats-just-eat-illega...


Exactly - anywhere you have undocumented or unregistered or undereducated workers you have exploitation. I don't know why this isn't discussed more widely as being a core element of the gig economy.

There isn't a technology or unionization fix for this as it's a social and polite problem. I've looked into cooperative worker-owned solutions but for certain strata of society there are more gaping problems than the algorithm.


There's no workplace to speak in hushed tones.

There's no way to know when you've reached a quorum of local drivers.

SMS. When I drove for Uber, there were massive group chats amongst the drivers. They even organized planned shortages in certain parts of the city when rates got too low.


I’ve often felt like there would be a lot of value for an app that’d simply let gig workers in an area find each other to talk and actually create a “workplace”.

But I’m not sure how you’d fund its creation. No VC would want it and there’s not a wealthy user base to bootstrap it.


Typically such things are bootstrapped not by a wealthy user base but by a talented user base who write the code and set up the organization themselves.

However, if you do need some money for boostrapping, there are likely unions out there that would be willing to grant/lend the sums needed, which should be five figures.

Taking VC money would be counter-productive, making you beholden to conflicting interests.

P.S. The motivation for setting something like this up doesn't necessarily need to be purely selfless. It's not going to make you a billionaire, but if successful a non-profit or co-op you set up to do this can pay you a six figure salary for a job that has significant meaningfulness and significant agency (aka control over your own work). And by being a non-profit or co-op the lack of conflict of interest should make it more likely to be successful.


That's a smart idea. It seems like it shouldn't be too expensive to get something like this up and running, but scalability once it's available will be an issue.

Estimates for how many gig workers there are in the US vary between "over 20 million" and "about 60 million." They're already tech-literate, they probably talk to each other, so there's a chance that an app like this would experience very quick growth.

I wonder how gig services would react to something like this. They'd probably try to identify users and deplatform them, so in addition to the financial aspects, one difficult part would be how to protect and anonymize such a platform's users.


yeah, i think that the value proposition for a platform like this over just setting up some sort of discord/message board would be based having a central trusted entity that's able to provide user accounts that are verified AND anonymous.

you'd want to know that the people you're talking to are actually your coworkers and not corporate plants, but you also want to be sufficiently anonymous to avoid workplace retaliation OR weird stalkers.


> No VC would want it and there’s not a wealthy user base to bootstrap it.

More to the point, VCs invented these apps specifically to disenfranchise workers and vaccuum up the lost cost as a bullshit "service fee".


> I’ve often felt like there would be a lot of value for an app that’d simply let gig workers in an area find each other to talk and actually create a “workplace”.

What would that mean, to be a workplace?


it could be anything that just allows social connection between people that are doing the same job in the same geographic region but are largely invisible to one another.

i'd try not to be prescriptive about it, but it could cover anything from a light 'random chat' channel to vent about petty workplace annoyances, 'tips and tricks' for success, or more serious channels to talk about workplace safety/conditions/unionization


But if it's a gig, where's the workplace? E.g. if all the domestic builders in my town got together, who would they unionise against? They're not employed; that's not a gig.


Domestic builders aren’t really what come to mind for “gig workers”.

This would be for folks who have some app controlling their work- uber drivers, door dashers, etc.


I’m guessing there a discord server somewhere with 90% management agents just waiting to honeypot potential union workers.

Seems like digital workplace should be easier to organize with all the community tools we have.


The much greater problem is that they are not employed. They are just self employed people, who take on gigs from various platforms.

They can, by definition, not unionize. Even striking is basically out of the question, as organization is near impossible and most of these people could not sustain months with zero pay.

This needs to be just made illegal, it is just a subversion of labor laws.


In the UK you can (and usually do) unionize without a workplace.

Many are industry-specific such as the "Communications wokers' union", but there are also general workers' unions such as GMB [1] or Unite.

It would be possible, indeed probably preferable, to form a "Delivery workers' union". It would be a union of delivery drivers who would pool resources to fight for common rights.

[1] https://www.gmb.org.uk/campaigns/deliveroo/


Well, those companies have a CEO, Director of Something, etc...



The critical industry of McDonald's delivery will never pay a living wage. There's not enough value. Folks will have to self-select out.


McD’s has doubled prices with rising profits


That's true, but the delivery people do not work for McD's. They do not legally work for the delivery companies (although practically they do). People that pay for delivery will not pay very much for delivery, generally less than minimum wage. They'll instead get the food themselves.


McD's is a franchise in the US. Franchisees set prices.


I don't know how this actually works, but this can't _always_ be the case if they run national ad campaigns [1] for $5 meal deals, right? Unless they're baking a lot into "pricing and participation may vary"

[1] https://www.mcdonalds.com/us/en-us/full-menu/5-dollar-meals....


If you scroll down, in small text you'll see:

*Prices and participation may vary.

That said, McDonalds corporate isn't running promotions unilaterally. Instead, promotions are proposed by committees elected by franchisees and voted on by franchisees themselves, so participation rates tend to be high.


So? What I said is correct


And it gets those without having to pay drivers (and technically even workers in most McDonalds’ restaurants since they are franchised), so why would they start?

Delivery and final assembly of food is not McDonald’s’ business.


They would start if workers organized against them. I'm responding to the notion that there's not enough value on the table for collective action


"final assembly of food"?

I haven't eaten McDonald's in a while, but from what I remember the food arrived fully assembled.


McDonald’s sells their marketing and logistics, and rents real estate, to franchisors. The franchisors’ business is the one that employs people who do final assembly of the food.

The franchisors’ profits and profit margins are nowhere near McDonalds’.


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