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Pulse oximeters are not all that simple. The general idea is easy enough to get across and it's possible to build a fairly simple one that will work some of the time. But the top end, highly reliable ones that work well at low sats are pretty complicated things.


Interesting. You're probably not the right person to ask about this sort of thing and I should probably stick with a doctor's opinion, but you may have a better intuition than I do about the reliability of these things' readings.

Suppose I use a pulse oximeter and I get readings of 90%, 91%, 92%, and 99%, all taken ~one minute apart.

Is it most likely that I am fine and there were some issues either with the hardware or its administration? Or is it possible to get spurious high readings?

For what it's worth I had this same experience at the doctor's today for my physical.


Former research engineer (intern) at a pulse oximiter company.

This was about 18 years ago, so the details are shaky.

Yes, this is likely the probe calibrating itself. Recall that the SpO2 is based on the ratio of two measurements. From TFA, you can see that the absorption in the IR is pretty flat, so the IR LEDs don't need to be known with much accuracy - and the IR LEDs you buy are also generally in narrow tolerances because of the telecom industry using them for fiber too. But on the Red side you have a steep slope for one of the spectra, that means that you need to have a better understanding of the wavelength of red LED you're using.

But you know where you get red LEDs? Cheaply? From traffic light manufacturers. In bulk. Apparently it's much cheaper to buy LEDs in huge quantities and pay in intern to develop a measurement device to test every single LED to determine the wavelength. (And probably sell the rest back into the traffic light supply chain.)

Even after that, the red LEDs wavelength was very dependent on temperature (your finger warms it up, for example) and even the current coming in from the probe.

I never worked on the FDA approved code, but there was a bunch of pre-processing put into the sensor to determine the red LED wavelength and make calibration changes before the signal got downstream to the main instrument.

I'm sure any pulse oximiter you buy off of Amazon doesn't go through the calibration that the FDA approved ones do.

Fun fact. As an intern when you're poor, it sounds like a good idea to do calibration studies: they put pulse oximiters on every finger and your earlobes and then have a nurse administer air to you and slowly bring your SpO2 down to 70% while watching the response of the sensors. Talk about light headed! And then they take the mask off and you pop back up to about 95% (our office was a 5000 feet, not sea level) in a minute or two. Fun and you get a $50 gift certificate.


It often takes a while for the probes to stablise and get an accurate reading, so this is a very common pattern, but I haven't looked into why. I think part of it may be the machine calibrating to the flow of blood through the area of skin you have chosen. You often apply the probe and sit it there for 30-60s waiting for it to stabilise.

If you are worried, ask them to leave it on throughout your consult. You should see it sit at 99-100% for the rest of your stay.


> I should probably stick with a doctor's opinion, but you may have a better intuition.

Yes, you should trust your doctor over strangers over the internet. They should have much more context as well. It's one thing to comment on equipment, but it is another to comment on what that result means for you.


I love my PSB M4U 8s. Great sound, replaceable batteries. Been using them for about a year.


Semaphore [0] is great. It was the only place where I could get selenium tests to work reliably.

[0]: https://semaphoreci.com/


Continue to work on apostello - "sms for your church" - https://github.com/monty5811/apostello


Shared an open source web-app for churches to manage their SMS communication recently [1].

Not much of a response, which is fine.

[1] http://github.com/monty5811/apostello


Open source sms software for your church https://github.com/monty5811/apostello

Been in production for over a year now.


There are a few similar services in this space:

https://huffduffer.com/ http://www.podmash.com/

And my own: https://pdcst.ninja/


Nice project, this looks really interesting. I think google reader did the same thing before it was shut down.

ps I have my own podcast related project at https://pdcst.ninja


Are there any future plans to incorporate ipython notebooks?

If you could run ipython notebooks as a service, I would think you would get a significant number of users.


It isn't quite a Windows application, but PocketCasts' web app works well for me (and syncs with my phone): https://play.pocketcasts.com


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