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Didn't read it as whataboutism. Was more a call to consider the "ridiculous stream of fantasy being spewed out of <country> leader and media" is rhetoric which is almost always applicable somewhere. The spewing's given some credit elsewhere, just not here because they've been pretty cleanly labelled as the enemy. Also maybe because it's batshit, but the people who are unsure of that will have a harder time having a discussion about it because so many people are jumping to emotional or canned responses.


The issues you're presenting seem real for some, but enthusiasts seem to be making it work[1: post from yesterday].

I like the call in your last point, but personally I think an innovation like 360 degree resizable and movable windows is a reasonable step up from where we're currently at. It would be nice to integrate the work we do into physical space a bit more though. I've wondered about doing practical programming work in an infinifactory-type[2] interface. I don't think it's necessarily a good idea, but it'd be fun to see attempts at no-code tooling embedded in the space.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28678041 [2] https://www.zachtronics.com/infinifactory/


What are the FIRE cultural phenomena?



Fire is the opposite of not having a work ethic. Most firees are incredibly disciplined and have a bigger work ethic than most normal people.


The result of this work ethic is to remove one’s self from the workforce. It’s a reasonable question as to why a lifetimes ambition for these hard workers is to be able to do nothing.


I think "retirement = doing nothing" is an incredibly strange assumption to make.


Most people who fire do the opposite of nothing though. For example Mr money mustache, one of the early fire bloggers, doesn't work in corporate but runs his own co working space.

I'd say most firees are risk averse entrepreneurs.


As someone who's been exposed to the stats more than most of us (I assume, pre-web dating service), do you have any particular insights? Have you thought about what one could do to address this mismatch since? I was fortunate to find my s.o. on a language exchange site, but if I felt my best options were something from the Match Group... it looks grim


No solutions, I am afraid, that do not involve large-scale genetic engineering.

In the parlance of our times, dudes are generally "thirstier." On top of it, you can call it genetics or you can call it culture, but ... men make the approach, typically. (Okay, I am done with generally and typically and trends for now) This leads to guys spamming some entirely-too-fussy gals and the usual dynamics emerging.

You've read the grim confessions of women who remorselessly admit to "dating for dinner." You've seen the baiting performed using the photo of a male model who can say simply the most awful and outrageous things. The Heightism user might have been banned on Twitter but others have emerged like the heads of hydras, reposting the casually cruel dismissal of men under six foot.

It's only the basic thirstiness that drives men to even continue, and I suspect that a lot of young men opt out, because that's just step one. They're looking at their often-divorced parents and remembering who got the house, then wondering if the game is worth the candle. I suspect the men at the intersection of easily disheartened and generally aware have been most put off, leaving the field to the exuberant and the blessed.

And remember, we are currently in a culture that doesn't seem to like men very much. Just for a giggle, go to Google, type "men are" and see what the autocomplete suggests, then do "women are." That has to add to more of the disenchantment.


You weren't kidding about Google, damn...


Now go look at their doodles for Mother's Day and compare them to Father's Day. Historically, I mean.


Regarding heightism: the market finds the price. The average woman is 5 inches shorter than the average man. If a woman or even an employer is willing to give up iq points for height, it’s their loss. Markets don’t care for prejudice.


Enlightening commentary. Thanks for sharing it.


I was a whole lot more spiteful when I was playing video games 24/7 and felt like there was nowhere else to go. I would've been far happier seeing an end to everything then, when everything seemed impossible, versus now that I have some experience, some skin in the game.


I wouldn't expect a project like that to go too far, I know of a couple of oss whatsapp clients that got took down, I'd assume when such a component comes online facebook would start causing trouble for them. Matrix uses bots which bridges services with services like signal, that seems to be the easiest way to achieve inter-operability, though idk how usable it is in practice.


It isn't likely Facebook is going to be in favour of such a feature, if it ever comes up. It just seems like it would be something that would give people more of an incentive to move to Signal, since they won't lose their contacts. Not sure how it would work in practice though, and how would Signal ensure the messages aren't going through to WhatsApp. Anyway, this was just a thought.


Is there a reason why there isn't a client that can work with matrix/signal/telegram/any service with open source clients available? Are there any existing OSS projects which have made any progress in this domain?

People are right, it doesn't solve the issue with Whatsapp, but it would mitigate some of the barrier caused by the network effect. I'm also sceptical of walled gardens, something usable in this domain would make this less of a problem when some drama rises over Telesignix, switching clients is a lot less of an ask than switching everything.


Platform providers like Google and Apple could tear down app walled gardens by simply saying "If your app has a significant chat component, it must make available this API to allow other apps to integrate with it".

Suddenly multi-billion dollar chat apps with big network effects are mere service providers... And since Google has failed so many times at producing a popular chat app, I'm surprised they haven't gone down this route...


They wont allow it. Then they would have to pay the cost for server infra while not being able to push ads via the client. The problem is how to get money to pay employees and make profit. If you want an open messeging app/protocol it would have to be mostly peer to peer to save on server cost, and developed by voulantenteers, and servers hosted by the community.


And an answer to that is maybe youre not the intended target of this poll. If the op is looking for alternatives, that's not a very useful option


Sure, whining is tedious, but polling a populace to get an overview of public opinion seems to be a different thing.


Seconded, also a great read if you're just casually interested


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