Awesome song. Gives me chills. Wish I believed in a just God like that.

you are made either of reason or of faith, but the choice what you are made of you can not make nor with reason nor with faith

reason can not choose reason, and faith can not choose faith

> If there is a glut of legal, AI generated CSAM material then this provides a lot of deniability for criminal creators/spreaders that cause genuine harm, and reduces "vigilance" of prosecutors, too ("it's probably just AI generated anyway...").

> You could make a multitude of arguments against that perspective, but at least there is a conclusive reason for legal restrictions.

I don't know about that. Would "I didn't know it was real" really count as a legal defense?

> I don't know about that. Would "I didn't know it was real" really count as a legal defense?

Absolutely-- prosecution would presumably need to at least show that you could have known the material was "genuine".

This could be a huge legal boon for prosecuted "direct customers" and co-perpetrators that can only be linked via shared material.

I'm really not convinced. This sounds very idealistic to me. The "justice" system is way more brutal in real life.

> There's basically no consent with what Grok is doing.

Wait how do you get consent from people that don't exist?

This part of the thread wasn't about that.

AI generated dancing puppies were not made from real dancing puppies.

> Falkon

In case anyone is wondering: https://www.falkon.org/about/

I miss that style of ad. IBM, Lucent, AT&T and many others used to do them, especially on the financial channels.

Seems like a pretty big difference. It's got to be worse to actually do something to somone in real life than not do that.

Just because there are different degrees of severity and different ways to offend doesn't make it not contraband.

I didn't argue they weren't. The person above me argued that the difference didn't matter. It does.

Not really, otherwise perpetrators will just "I was just looking at it, I didn't do anything as bad as creating it". Their act is still illegal.

There was a cartoon picture I remember seeing around 15+ years ago of Bart Simpson performing a sex act. In some jurisdictions (such as Australia), this falls under the legal definition.

> Not really, otherwise perpetrators

You don't think it's worse to molest a child than to not molest a child?

I think you're joking but they will. Eventually stystemd will consume everything and that work has already begun, quite literally.

They absolutely will.

Even irony aside, there is no point in investing so much efforts in Rust slops without removal of the original tools.

Almost. Not Alpine and a few others.

Exactly. Now, remember how everyone gaslit us into saying we'd always have a choice? We told you so.

Switching out glibc is pretty easy compared to systemd. That's the thing peoplle don't get. systemd is seriously insidius, like a virus.

I've personally run Gentoo with OpenRC+glibc and OpenRC+musl on my laptop. I assure you ditching systemd was easier than ditching glibc. The OpenRC system mostly just works (tbh thanks to a lot of great work by Gentoo devs). The musl system required probably a couple dozen patches to various packages to get a basic fully working desktop (most of which were relatively straightforward, but still needed manual intervention).