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I think open source contributions/projects will still be a way to gain verifiable experience.

Other than that, I guess developing software in some capacity while doing a non-strictly software job - say, in accounting, marketing, healtcare, etc. This might not be a relevant number of people if 'vibe coding' takes hold and the fundamentals are not learned/ignored by these accountants, marketers, healthcare workers, etc.

If that is the case, we'd have a lot of 'informed beginners' with 10+ years of experience tangentially related to software.

Edit: As a result of the above, we might see an un-ironic return to the 'learn to code' mantra in the following years. Perhaps now qualified 'learn to -actually- code'? I'd wager a dollar on that discourse popping up in ~5 years time if the trend of not hiring junior devs continues.


I'm looking forward for the weird inflective trend of "organic" programs, "humane" dev treatment, and software development taking a long time being seen as a mark of quality rather than stagnation or worry. :)

I'm half-joking, but I wouldn't be surprised to see all sorts of counterpoint marketing come into play. Maybe throw in a weird traditional bent to it?

> (Pretentious, douche company): Free-range programming, the way programming was meant to be done; with the human touch!

All-in-all, I already feel severely grossed out any time a business I interact with introduces any kind of LLM chatbot shtick and I have to move away from their services; I could genuinely see people deriving a greater disdain for the fad than there already is.


Just FYI, I stumbled upon this discussion the other day. This [1] is not the same source that was going around but states the same thing.

"STEM graduates, often hailed as the golden ticket to career success, are facing unemployment rates that might make you double-take. For instance, computer engineering majors are grappling with a 7.5% unemployment rate, while art history majors—yes, the ones often mocked for their “impractical” degrees—are sitting pretty at just 3%. What’s going on here?"

[1] https://capwolf.com/why-stem-grads-struggle-to-find-jobs-in-...


Actual numbers aside - I couldn't posssibly respect and admire Woz's statement more than I did.

My English may not be enough to express it but above all else it exhudes a "clarity of purpose" that is remarkable


> Fallure to comply monora de co compete per ravit evocation or accen to rasia venice systems can da micer injunctive

This might be some error from OCRing or otherwise trying to extract the content from a frame from the video, but I laughed here when I got to 'monora de co compete per ravit' and I googled it thinking it might be an arcane Latin legal expression

In my defense I am tired and Latin and monora de compete sounds Latiny


I know Latin. That is gibberish, actually just badly OCR'ed English.

Looking at the letter in the video it says: "Failure to comply may result in further legal action, including but not limited to claims for injunctive monetary damage, and permanent revocation of access to Tesla vehicle systems and services."


PIX is free for the users and imposes a very, very small fee (much smaller than any other non-cash payments) for banks etc.

(and cash is not usable for large amounts)


Disregarding the law (I'm ignorant) - why should PIX be "auditable"?

Almost everyone (very close to literally everyone) uses PIX and we have zero reported cases of mishap, errors or bad faith attacks...?

I quite frankly don't care that the system backed/created by the public services and imposed on banks is "closed"; to the point I'm generally curious as to what are the arguments for caring

Hope this does not sound dismissive - as a heavy user with no complaints for years, why should I care PIX is a black box?


> Almost everyone (very close to literally everyone) uses PIX and we have zero reported cases of mishap, errors or bad faith attacks...?

Earlier this month, hackers using credentials purchased from a C&M employee were able to generate unauthorised PIX transactions on client banks and steal at least BRL$ 500 MM, and maybe as much as BRL $ 5 BN, so it's definitely not fool proof.

> Hope this does not sound dismissive - as a heavy user with no complaints for years, why should I care PIX is a black box?

Brazilians in general are very accepting of government surveillance, with the omnipresent CPF and now complete disclosure of almost all consumer transactions to the State. It's always surprised me, TBH, given the very recent history of dictatorship and unbounded potential for abuse.


> Earlier this month, hackers using credentials purchased from a C&M employee were able to generate unauthorised PIX transactions

To be clear - This was a "bank robbery" (inside job, given usage of credentials?) and in absolutely zero ways affects trust in Pix as a user

As for your other point - thanks, our values and concerns are not aligned; it would be hard for us to agree on this


> To be clear - This was a "bank robbery" (inside job, given usage of credentials?) and in absolutely zero ways affects trust in Pix as a user

Well, that doesn't appear to have been the case. Instead it seems to have been an attack that leverage a as-yet-unknown weakness in the Pix protocol that seems to have allowed something similar to impersonation. Whether it has affected your trust in Pix is almost immaterial, as it has rocked institutional trust in the protocol and platform.

As for user trust, with endless malware attacks like PixPirate, PixBankBot, GoPix, etc,

> As for your other point - thanks, our values and concerns are not aligned; it would be hard for us to agree on this

That's an interesting claim - how do you know my values and concerns?


Regarding the bit about Dallas being an example of rise & fall of prices it seems to be an issue of poorly worded (or explained) difference in time frame. I replied under another post with the details from the sources (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44635228)


Yes, that read weird to me, too, but it's because the 'lowering prices' are a snapshot, or recent trend (evidenced by the source being an index for April 2025 [1])

The 'sharpest rises' are from a long-term trend of a decade [2]:

> Over the past decade, the median home price has increased by 134 percent in Phoenix, 133 percent in Miami, 129 percent in Atlanta, and 99 percent in Dallas. (Over that same stretch, prices in New York, San Francisco, and Los Angeles have increased by about 75 percent, 76 percent, and 97 percent, respectively).

Here's my pictorial illustration of the curve because I like drawing silly plots in txt

  |
  |              ____
  |          ___/    \ } Jan-April 2025
  |      ___/
  |  ___/
  |_/____________________
  |        |        |
  2015.....2020.....2025
[1] https://www.realtor.com/news/trends/dallas-home-prices-case-...

[2]https://www.theatlantic.com/economy/archive/2025/06/zoning-s...


Increases in Dallas and Los Angeles are about average over the decade. (National average is 93.9%)

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/CSUSHPINSA

Here is another interesting chart:

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?id=CSUSHPINSA,SFXRNSA,LXX...,

Which place seems more expensive since 2000? Can you see the big drop in 2025?

I think the story of Atlanta and Dallas is a story of cheap housing being available for a long time until it started to get used up. In Atlanta, it's not just exurban development, a lot of in-city neighborhoods had some growing ability. But the mixture of people relocating to Atlanta and the constraints of a car-based city with difficult zoning have basically stopped new supply. Small single-family houses get replaced with larger single-family houses and the missing middle is harder to find.


"I like drawing silly plots in txt"

To thine own self be true!


I think you misunderstood the parent post. It states people in the UK are more aware/recognizant of "class" - not that they are less classist (i.e. prejudiced)

The example of lower class people not recognizing so in the US is meant to be an example of lack of class awareness/recognition; not of less (or more) classism (prejudice based on class)


Edit: as check wikipedia to see what he has worked on I see there is a section about a controversy and I realize the parent post may mean something about a moral characteristic of Joss Whedon, not his capability as a creator.

> Joss Whedon, who arguably shouldn't speak at all

Please argue. Isn't he a succesfull writer/director/showrunner?

Seems like he is one of the people able to "making the archetypes of blockbuster films into fun, likable people" (the core argument of the article), as evidenced by the fan following of Buffy, success of the first Avengers movie, etc.

It is possible, if not likely, that the failings of one or more of his projects are not his fault (as we have evidence he is able to make fun things to watch)


Besides the cancellation aspect, I think he's very "of a time".

He wrote a lot of "strong female characters" that in retrospect all kind of look identical, and get into... suspicious situations. His quippy dialogue is also the kind of thing you might enjoy in small doses, but you quickly realize all his characters just talk like Joss Whedon and have no characterization (besides Tough Guy, Tough Guy with a Heart of Gold, and Waif who knows karate).

Back when it was doled out once a week on Buffy it was novel, but if you try and binge any Whedon content now it's pretty painful absent the nostalgia.

Edit: I forgot the fourth Whedon archetype: Waif who likes having sex but she owns it so it's feminist and not just Male Gazey.


Joss Whedon's style of character writing is arguably the basis for modern "quippy" dialog where any serious moment has to be balanced with comedy or sarcasm.


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