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Didn't they make it very, very expensive to drive in the City of London?


Space is expensive in city centers. Cars take up lots of space.


£15/day. So more expensive than public transport but less than if you took an uber.


As a data point, going two ways between zones 3 and 1 by tube is 8.7 pounds a day, and it will go up soon. If you include 2 people in the family, the convenience of dropping off the kids at their schools, etc 15 pounds doesn't sound that bad for the car, if you have where to park.


That's probably excluding parking. I would expect the day rate for that to be quite steep.


Then it's not wonder people would rather cycle. What a deceptive headline.


How is it deceptive?


Isn't it full of very, very expensive people?


It is not any more expensive than anywhere else in central London. Electric cars can drive in the city for free at any time. For other cars, between 7am and 6pm you have to pay a £15 congestion charge to drive in the centre. You might have to pay another £12.50 ULEZ charge if you drive an older car.


You should be made to pay extra healthcare taxes for driving an ICE car in an inner city area since you are the primary contributor to a lot of extra cancer cases.


I wish I could understand that article, but it just doesn't have enough emojis :(


Spotify and YouTube premium for free, in my case.


So copyright infringement. Really a poor argument against Apples policies.

People should upload an app that allows you to bypass the regional limitations on 5ghz WiFi and see what the EU thinks about banning app stores then. Because according to the typical regulator it’s bad when others impose limits, but not when they impose limits.


So you think that a private company with the sole purpose of increasing profits should have the same say as a more-or-less democratically elected body with the purpose of bettering the lives of its citizens?

That bootlicking for corporations never really did a thing for me personally — they are literally paper clip optimizers without a care for anyone.


So you think no corporation should be able to decide anything, everything should be left to pseudodemocratic EU agencies that are mostly concerned with clinging to power?

Which, by the way has nothing to do with any of the points I was making, and is just the typical hurr durr Apple bad response.


copyright infringement doesn't exist in the same form everywhere, I don't think a phone should have a single monopolized app store just to prevent US based copyright infringement.


In other news, the DMCA type rules do not apply to the whole internet and the Berne convention is just a fiction that stands in the way of the glorious EU forcing Apple to open their App Store.


The free transmission of information should usually triumph over the enforcement of intellectual property. It's a symbol of a healthy democracy, in my opinion.


If you want to argue the abolition of copyright that’s fine but it’s revolutionary and not the subject of this thread.


Copyright (and Copyleft) is a societal concept, not a technical one. In the technical world, there is only copying. If someone tries to limit your ability to copy data by using a societal concept as an excuse, they are directly censoring the content you interact with. That's not just democratically harmful, it's a bad omen for the market.

It's so anti-revolutionary that currently-sitting administrations in America and Europe agree that Apple is deserving of anticompetitive inquiry.


A not very interesting philosophical essay that is rehashing arguments everyone has seen a million times and is not about the subject of this thread.


A poor argument? To me, as a final user, it's the greatest one.

>Because according to the typical regulator it’s bad when others impose limits, but not when they impose limits.

I agree, regulators shouldn't exist.


> So copyright infringement. Really a poor argument against Apples policies.

>> A poor argument? To me, as a final user, it's the greatest one.

>> I agree, regulators shouldn't exist.

So you don't want regulators, even though regulators are the only possible way things like the copyright infringement tools you like might be made mainstream. Got it.


Someone who buys an evo pro knows to install magician, at least to update the firmware for the first use, or so i hope - it would be like buying a high-end nvidia and using the drivers from windows update.


There's a difference between a GPU that gets new drivers every week (and essential to gaming/working) and an SSD, which I personally have never even thought about checking the firmware for.


why would you assume you need to install software for a drive?

I've not done so and my SSDs work fine..


His message, at least the way I read it, is a message of love for men. It's sad that you have seen hatred in it. Perhaps you should reflect.


It helps to read TOS/EULA/etc. If you agree to something then you shouldn't be complaining about it.


No. In many places getting consent by deceptive/malicious means is illegal, and EULAs cannot override laws. That's why Google's cookie popups now have a "reject all" button after a $170 million fine.


10 years ago it would take a month of workdays. I have to imagine it's much worse now.

https://www.techdirt.com/2012/04/23/to-read-all-privacy-poli...


There is a website that summarizes terms of services:

https://tosdr.org/

The about page says it started in June 2012, shortly after that techdirt article.


Then don't use the software, you can't just sign a contract and then back off because you didn't have time to read it before you signed it.


Interestingly, when I booted up a Win10 VM (with internet access) a few weeks ago some Edge window appeared, took over the screen, and wanted to force me to go through their preferences/setup wizard.

By "force" I mean "giving no other options". No "skip", "do it later" (or similar), and no way to quit.

Had to outright kill the task in the windows process manager, as there's zero chance I want anything to do with Edge.

So "don't use the software" is workable for people who know how to kill tasks.

But MS will be pulling that shit on average consumers too.


Well I have an EULA in my living room closet that allows everyone who wants to complain. If you don’t agree you can find my closet and write your name on the exception list. You must use Cyrillic letters.


Yes, have us let tech giants see how much dystopian shit they can get away with without any kind of pushback because their ToS has a vague remark at page 30 that might grant them the ability to do so. That is the kind of future we want.


Oh, there's no chance in hell I'll ever use Edge personally. Learned a long, long time ago not to trust MS.


I think you realize how unrealistic and out of touch that is, and just take pleasure in being a pill.


This is the result of you surrounding yourself with terminally online people. Those who don't spend their waking days using social media are perfectly fine but you don't hear about them.


"Goofy problems [...] abound for a _long time_ with seemingly no solution" is the norm in desktop Linux.


> "Goofy problems [...] abound for a _long time_ with seemingly no solution" is the norm in desktop Linux.

Hey, it's still better than Windows:) To quote a bit from upthread,

>>i should add that this happens on both windows and linux but at least on linux i had a way of disabling LAR so my regulatory domain gets detected properly and all the wifi channels/widths works as they should.

(https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35199660)


Had, not has. That option no longer exists.


I remember trying to find a USB wifi adapter that actually has WPA3 driver support on Windows. Hell.


Not really. Desktop Linux destroys every other user experience I've had without trying.


I remember Doom 3 (2004) using them extensively


And on the other hand Unreal 2 from 2003 was not using them IIRC, and I felt back hen that it was a missed opportunity and immediately made it look a bit dated with the other cool looking stuff coming out around then.


I remember The Chronicles of Riddick: Escape from Butcher Bay (2004) used them quite a lot. I remember the effect was so obvious that I noticed it despite not knowing what it was or what it was called. Good looking game.


I recall them being hyped up quite a bit in press in prerelease articles about Halo 2 (2004) and TESIV: Oblivion (2006)


Vividly remember my mind being BLOWN by the normal mapping on the prison wall bricks in an Oblivion trailer! Simpler times :)


I have never used one, but I will never understand in what situations does a touchscreen on a desktop or a laptop make any sense at all. Maybe if I used one it would click for me but I don't get it. I imagine myself poking the screen of a laptop, the whole thing wobbling, all full of greasy fingerprints... it makes me cringe.


It just makes sense sometimes. We're at the point where every web page and operating system control is large enough to be hit with a finger anyway, why go through the effort of getting a virtual pointer to hover over it when you can just tap it? The button is _right there_! For most of computer history, we've used tools to simulate putting our fingers on something (cursors becoming hands when tapping interactive elements, for example) and to get there, we've used a virtual finger controlled by a mouse, touch pad, track ball, or anything else that gets two dimensional movement across to the screen. We're finally at the point that we don't need the intermediate technology anymore, except perhaps for precision work.

Windows 8 has had excellent gesture support since Windows 8 and if you enable the right settings (tablet mode, for one) browsing the web becomes quite tablet-like on a laptop. On a desktop I don't think it would make too much sense outside of a digital artist's environment.

If your laptop has a flimsy hinge or a screen that stains easily, it probably won't make sense to use its screen as a touch screen (unless it folds all the way back). However, in my experience, most laptops that aren't designed to be as thin as possible will hold up quite nicely if you touch their screens. Our phones are perfectly usable when we put our greasy fingers all over them, so why would a laptop screen be any different? You don't need a lot of force to operate a touch screen, we're not constantly flinging our phones across the room when we need to tap something. It's just a matter of mounting and treating the screen right. If your screen gets to a reasonable brightness, you probably won't even notice the finger grease.

Touch screens on computers aren't for everyone, but most people that have tried them don't seem to want to go back. I haven't used one for an extensive amount of time myself, but I can definitely see the appeal.


>We're at the point where every web page and operating system control is large enough to be hit with a finger anyway, why go through the effort of getting a virtual pointer to hover over it when you can just tap it? The button is _right there_!

Because moving my wrist a little bit is much easier than moving my entire arm. If the way you position your laptop allows you to not have to move your entire arm then you don't have a laptop, you have a tablet, and that's another discussion altogether.

Also having mouse interfaces allows for interface elements to be smaller, thus showing more information at the same time.


Look at it from the perspective of the commons: It's easier to poke at a screen than to use a mouse or touchpad. It's easier to see and read bigger text and interfaces than small environments for ants, especially as one advances in age.


Apple already sells an apparatus for the commons, it's called the iPad.


I thought the same until I got a surface studio.

The touch screen itself is useful when multiple people use a computer. Much nicer if everyone can interact with the screen vs. asking the person holding the mouse to scroll down a bit.

But the real game changer is the stylus. Annotating PDFs, signing contracts, kids doing school worksheets, the whiteboard app... It's amazing how much more naturally you can interact with a computer if you can just draw on it.

I love my big iMac, I just wish it came with a stylus.


>But the real game changer is the stylus. Annotating PDFs, signing contracts, kids doing school worksheets, the whiteboard app... It's amazing how much more naturally you can interact with a computer if you can just draw on it.

This is understated.

Sometimes, you need to sign documents electronically, and let me tell you all: Trying to sign with a mouse is fucking miserable. I say that as someone who knows and breathes computer, too; the common man finds it downright intolerable.

Scribbling with a finger, let alone writing/drawing with a freaking pen, is an astronomical leap in intuitive usability.


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