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I once heard a linguistic explanation for this.

European languages have a future tense, which means people have different ideas of themselves in the present and future. You can even hear this in phrases like "that's a problem for future me."

While Chinese lacks the European styled future tense, ignoring time phrases, auxiliary verbs, etc. So people more clearly conceptualize their present and future selves as the same. Leading to things like increased saving.

This of course is rooted in linguist psychology, a very soft science. But still an interesting idea.


This sounds like the 'Future Time Reference' hypothesis by Keith Chen (2013). It’s indeed a fascinating idea, but it’s essentially an example of Galton’s problem (treating related cultures/languages as independent data points).

What makes this story (scientifically) great is that Chen himself co-authored a follow-up study just two years later [1] to rigorously test his own theory. When they re-analyzed the data using mixed-effects models to control for cultural phylogeny and relatedness, the correlation between grammar and savings pretty much disappeared.

They concluded the original finding was likely a spurious correlation.

It turns out that cultural history drives both the language we speak and our saving habits, rather than the grammar causing the behavior.

[1] https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal...


Thanks for the follow up. I am always hesitant to believe things that sound too Gladwellian.

dont think this hold much water at all.

Something I've never seen in these analyses is drinking. Millennials are heavy drinkers. Both craft brews and cocktails were defining generational traits. Not everyone is a drinker but it appears they are heavy drinkers compared to other generations.

The theory behind the ultra marathoners is that extreme distance running disrupts the epithelial layer and microbiome in the gut. Wouldn't drinking have similar effects?


> Millennials are heavy drinkers.

That's news to millenials and the graveyard of craft breweries. I thought alcohol consumption is trending off for younger generations.


Millennials are not the younger generation anymore. That refers to Gen Z and alpha.

It’s more like, millennials got older and started drinking less (as happens), and Gen Z drinks different things like hard seltzer, and also drinks a bit less overall. Plus there were just way too many craft brewers making hoppy ipa to begin with.

Unfortunately, hoppy IPA seems to constitute the majority of the survivors. I have no interest personally in suffering through another hazy sour grapefruit triple ipa, but that seems to be about 90% of craft brewery output these days.

Interesting, where I live in Brooklyn it seems this is no longer an issue. Tons of non-hoppy craft options like pilsners, stouts, lagers, etc at ~every craft brewery or gastropub.

40% of the US population is older than 45, and millenial includes < 50th percentile.

We're also talking about alcohol consumption. Only half of Gen Z can drink and none of Alpha.


Alcohol has adverse interactions with psych meds, and THC is becoming the recreational drug of choice.

Not yet.

I see one poll by a cannabis outlet claiming 46% of marijuana users are millenials (read: high proportion of user base). However, <20% of millennials smoke marijuana. [0] And another claims <40% use cannabis.

That's still below the ~50% of millennials who consume alcohol.

[0]https://news.gallup.com/poll/284135/percentage-americans-smo...


I hate to break it to you, but Millennials aren't a younger generation anymore...

though I'm not sure they drank any more than the 2-3 generations that proceeded them.


> but Millennials aren't a younger generation anymore...

Not younger than GenX/Baby Boomer? How?


We millennials are all middle age.

There's roughly 4 to 5 generations alive at any point and the middle generation is going to be considered both old and young by the generations surrounding it.

Once Gen beta starts we'll be officially old.


Middle age != Middle generation.

I understand your point. But you're redefining widely accepted usage of these terms. Nobody would call a 30 year old "middle age."


You're right. 8 year olds would call you ancient and 80 year olds would call you a baby. Middle age is relative and unless you're over 45 you don't admit to it, and then hold on to it for too long.


Well, your first Google result is a blog post that makes my point.

> For example, baby boomers are the generation with the most dramatic increase in harmful alcohol abuse. In contrast, Gen Z prefers the sober lifestyle as they are known to consume alcohol much less than any of their older counterparts, including millennials.


https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6819207/

> Compared to non-/occasional drinking (≤1 g/day), light/moderate drinking (up to 2 drinks/day) was associated with a decreased risk of CRC (OR: 0.92, 95% CI: 0.88–0.98, p=0.005), heavy drinking (2–3 drinks/day) was not significantly associated with CRC risk (OR: 1.11, 95% CI: 0.99–1.24, p=0.08), and very heavy drinking (more than 3 drinks/day) was associated with a significant increased risk (OR: 1.25, 95% CI: 1.11–1.40, p<0.001)... These results provide further evidence that there is a J-shaped association between alcohol consumption and CRC risk.

I guess these sites don't bring up drinking because except for very heavy drinking the data says it's not a factor.


This finding is crazy! I wonder how many modern health issues have to do with healthy blood/nutrient flow to tissues, that are basically solved with either mild/moderately amounts of movement and a balanced diet.

I thought lots of data indicated that millennials were drinking less than previous generations?

I wonder how many of these companies burned cash to acquire customers, thinking they could jack up rates to improve profit. At the first sign of this, people jumped ship. Also any significantly large client will migrate to a lower layer to save cost. This means your business is effectively locked into SMB, because the enterprise market is just not there.

Very small, high precision spheres are hard to make. Ball bearings also fall into this category. Many modern machines depend on this. I never see it "recreate society manuals," but they should be.

The balls aren’t that hard to make [1], but doing so at scale economically isn’t something you can build with some plug and play off the shelf machinery. It takes years to assemble a functioning factory like that and tune the process before it’s profitable. All the Western companies that make them are decades old with established and largely paid off manufacturing lines but once the Chinese government decided it was a critical industrial product downstream from their five year plans, it was just a matter of time and capital. Few other governments are willing to subsidized specialized manufacturing like that so investors don’t want to risk entering an established market.

The hard part is really quality control when making hundreds of thousand or millions of balls a day, at which point all metrology equipment is basically useless except for random sampling, which means your process has to be pretty much perfect before anyone will even buy from you, but you cant slow down the process because then you’re just losing money.

[1] https://youtu.be/41Z5v4NybWA?si=xzFw2xD93D9TfW6F (process for the balls starts around 1:50)


>Very small, high precision spheres are hard to make

I remember this was on a list of zero-g manufacturing techniques that NASA was investigating at one point. I wonder what became of that? Normally, I'd think the cost would be prohibitive, but you can probably fit a lot of 0.1mm ball bearings in a ton of cargo.


I think a lot of Asimov stories fall into the same category. When you shape a genre, looking back it all seems so obvious. I do think Le Guin wrote much better characters than Asimov.

Agree on "I, robot", but foundation series is still very good (probably because it's not really character-focused)

Just to add to this, people say the same about eg citizen Kane being such a classic but without the context of it having genre defining firsts, the film doesn’t stand out as much to a modern viewer.

Asimov wrote characters?!

Growth will be proportional to spend. You can cut waste later and celebrate efficiency. So when growing there isn't much incentive to do it efficiently. You are just robbing yourself of a potential future victory. Also it's legitimately difficult to maximize growth while prioritizing efficiency. It's like how a body builder cycles between bulking and cutting. For mid to long term outlooks it's probably the best strategy.

Is this satire? Throwing money into a bottomless pit is the opposite of success. Growth is proportional to spend if and only if spend is proportional to growth. You can't just assume it's the case.

DBs are a solved problem for most cases. APIs are a solved problem. UX patterns are a solved problem. Yet I solved problems related to these things every day.


Requirements for power still don't come close to total or practical surface area. If we get to that point, space collectors with microwave beams to the ground are viable.


Every accusation is an admission.


Have you never been screened where they swab your items and stick it in a machine? That is to detect explosives. They can use the first machine to target people for follow up screening.


I have, but what’s relevant is that I’m always commanded to dump out any liquids in containers bigger than the 3.4 oz limit before going through security unless they’re like a prescription medication. What I’m unclear on why that’s changed if the improvement that’s been made is in detection of liquids in packed bags.


So far, this machine has been used to reliably, 10/10 times, reject and discard my nivea deodorant.


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