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But of course it's back.

At this point I am pretty sure it's the loud vocal minority that hates it. Vast majority is either indifferent or actually likes it (but liking something doesn't sell).

I've seen far more non-design-obsessed people (normals) complaining about it, but in the end i think the better question is why? What possible purpose does this serve other than key-jangling? It is a distraction for most people and a waste of screen space and probably gpu cycles, why are we shading and filtering on every frame on every window and modal? Just render the pane and put the fries in the bag.

The waste of screen space is the big one for me. It feels like every company is racing to dumb down their products and fill their UI with whitespace instead of using that space for controls or content. My bank just redesigned their website and now even checking the balance of a few accounts + credit cards requires scrolling on a 1080p display. Ridiculous.

People who like it aren't vocal, agreed. I think this works for every outrage wave we experience online. Something to keep in mind.

I think the vast majority's friction points with liquid glass come from the other changes, like the redesign of Messages and the calling functionality.

Genuine question: what do you not like about those? I haven't seen anything in either of those that I actively disliked.

> You're probably an iCloud services user.

I don't even know what iCloud is, and I have seen zero ads. I don't understand such comments.


Oh please. Unless you’ve never opened system settings and got the device with a user account pre-configured for you, you have been exposed to iCloud several times.

Does it make one especially edgy to pretend to use an Apple device while never having heard the name of their single cloud offering? Whatever floats your boat, mate.


Correct. My device is issued to me by my employer. I never owned a Mac in my life.

I admit that my comment was a bit over the top. But all I know about iCloud is that it's similar to OneDrive. Never used it.


If I have seen them, I guess my internal ad block is just too strong.

> you need a ton of third party tools to make it behave like Windows, that's what you mean.

100% this.


Don't all browsers have it nowadays? I feel like it's been in my Brave forever.

> The general population loves being glazed way too much.

This is 100% correct!


Thanks for short warm blast of dopamine, no one else ever seems to grasp how smart I truly am!

That is an excellent observation.

I am quite sure that they will expand the colour palette in the next gen. One more way to distinguish that you have "a new version of the thing".

The limited color palette isn't the issue, it's that the colors have no vividness as the iBook.

> archive.today has a documented history of altering the archived content

Wow, I had no idea. Thanks.


Archive.org has an even worse history of this, FWIW.

It allows website owners and third parties to tamper with archived content.

Look here, for example: https://web.archive.org/web/20140701040026/http://echo.msk.r...

Archive.today is by far the best option available.


What does this example show? It shows „ad blocker detected“ for me.

Archived page from 2014 gets tampered with by this javascript from 2022: https://web.archive.org/web/20220912152218/http://echobanner...

Unless you're very technical, web.archive.org is completely untrustworthy


Deflection rather than addressing the actual accusation

Pay attention to this type of behavior, folks. It's revealing


What do you want me to address? I'm just pointing out that there are no great archival services, and the only real alternative to archive.today is worse.

>Pay attention to this type of behavior, folks. It's revealing

What does it reveal?


Lmao, did you just start bickering with yourself?

Or, wow, you just revealed your second account.


Yea, reading through the page, these two accounts have been sounding exactly the same. I suppose it is in line with the childish behavior of AT.

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Reported you to mods via email.

Oh great, I might have to click "New Identity" in Tor Browser.

It was never about children...

I can guarantee you that's not only America's problem.

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