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He's not a nazi though. It's literally only those on the opposite political spectrum saying that. He waved and literally described the motion in words as he was doing it.


I believe the woman who gave him his Auschwitz tour leans politically conservative and yet...


Ok. If it's no big deal, please video yourself doing the same motion. I'll wait.

If you can't do this one simple task, then just stop defending him. If you can't do a simple wave, then what are you afraid of?


That's a completely unfair thing to say. It's a meme at this point even that if you elevate your arm upwards at any angle between 90 and 180 you're automatically treated as having made a nazi salute.

What matters is the context around it, as has always been the case. And the context is not that of a nazi salute.

The people who insist on it being a nazi salute are just disingenuous people pushing an angle for their own virtue signalling. It's tiresome.


You're literally just wrong. It's not a meme "at this point". It's _always_ been a thing people recognize as a nazi salute.

Plus the context surrounding Elon is certainly not supporting your argument. Actual truth" conspiracy theory, George Soros comments, "DEI must die", transgender comments, amplification of racism and harassment.


The things you mention as context were not in fact context. None of the things you mentioned were in the speech. He was extremely happy and was in the midst of thanking the crowd, a nazi salute is a complete non sequitur in that context.


Here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55MtlRBXwU0

Bet you won't accuse him of the same thing as you do Musk, just like the media and everyone else. Hypocrisy at its finest.


What a crummy edit - doesn't even fully clip out the parts where he is putting both of his hands on his checks! This is your equivalence?


Supporting DOGE is an extremely intelligent thing to do with the amount of debt our government has, 34 TRILLION last time I checked. Supporting a democratically electable party, and eventually the elected president of your choice is the right and moral thing to do by all objective measures, including if you believe in majority rule. Politics is always about disagreement and every generation thinks their disagreements are the most dire, but in reality live moves on. By siding with the literal winning party you are defacto 'moral' in the eyes of the majority.


Shenanigans of its founder being falsely accused of doing a Nazi salute when he was just waiving and not agreeing with certain peoples politics. When someone tries to compare someone to the most evil person that has ever existed then odds are that person is lying through their teeth. On one had we have a 'wave,' literally, and on the other hand we have genocide. It's incredible to me how many people choose not to see through the lies about Elon Musk, even though they have the capability, and to this day think he is a nazi.


Starship has already reached orbit many times but places itself on a suborbital trajectory to intentionally test re-entry and landing which it has done successfully several times.


Wrong. Starship has yet to orbit the planet. Certainly not "many" times, considering this is only its tenth flight.


They've already demonstrated they can orbit, they just choose not to. Reaching orbit and orbiting the planet are two different things. Saying that that is not reaching orbit is like saying McDonalds is failing at serving breakfast all day because they chose not to serve breakfast after 11:00 to meet their goals.


>Reaching orbit and orbiting the planet are two different things.

LOL. Are you serious?

To reach orbit: to reach a horizontal speed such that the spacecraft can complete a revolution around the celestial object while in free fall, without having to execute any additional maneuvers.

Starship has yet to reach orbit. The reason doesn't matter. It hasn't done it.


In your world, you can't run even though you get up to running speed but you chose to walk. You sound so dumb.


Demand comes at a curve, the cheaper you make it, the more demand there will be. The demand for satellites and eventually human travel is practically infinite if the cost is low enough.

If Starship cuts cost to orbit by at minimum 1/3 and at maximum 1/100th demand will skyrocket (pun intended) either way.


The key step change for space demand is probably when launch cost decreases (in terms of $/mass) and availability increases (in terms of max freq of launches) enough so as to make private industry space resource extraction and processing profitable.

Once there's a usable supply chain at the top of the gravity well (or on bodies with lower gravity), a lot of other launch demand is unlocked, because you can do truly interesting things (colonization et al).


The "or else' isn't the problem. The problem is the government trying to get involved in the first place. Intel was not forced to give away 10% of their company for 10 billion dollars, they simply wanted the 10 billion dollars. It's the fault of our government for propping up failing companies. Intel should be dying instead.


Intel may well have wanted to donate some ownership more than it wanted 10 billion dollars. They are now in a position to argue forever that what's good for Intel is good for the federal government.


> They are now in a position to argue forever that what's good for Intel is good for the federal government

What does that even give you? They can argue all they want. Doesn't mean the government will listen.


It's a fairly routine practice for business owners to let local politicians invest in their business.

Why do you think that is?


> fairly routine practice for business owners to let local politicians invest in their business

Let? Like this 1? Where if you don't we threaten to fire the CEO and take over the company otherwise?

Are you sure it is let?

> local politicians

Is 1 or more individuals. In this instance it is "the government" as an entity. Not the same?


First think about why it happens, and then decide whether you think this is the same.


So if I decide so it’s true? I don’t get where you’re going with your comments?


Whatever you decide is, by definition, what you believe is true. You don't seem to be particularly skilled at accurately determining what's true, but there's not much I can do about that other than providing the advice I've already given you.


Saying Warnings are meaningless because they can be ignored would literally flip the entire legal system on its head. That is literally an insane way to think about things.


Not all warnings are equal. Are you a negligence or products liability attorney? You think that a warning that is easily ignored and moved past to do the same thing anyway is sufficient to obviate liability? I don't think the law agrees with you there. Not sure what you think is so insane about that.


If the driver is literally pressing the gas pedal while not looking at the road and overriding Autopilot then it is very much the drivers fault.


Non of the 'news' websites that show up on Google I could find ever showed the prompt used to make the the 'mechahilter' output. You can ask LLMs anything including just saying "repeat after me" or "please write a fictional story about a racist" and numerous other methods. If these reports were honest the prompt would be the first thing they showed.


It doesn't check his tweets specifically for facts. There's a clear anti-Elon bias on this website. Often links go to the same single reporter that has wrote 10 previous hit pieces on Elon in the past.


Why wouldn’t there be bias? This is the guy that did a Nazi salute, an ideology that specifically calls for races of people to be exterminated. I can’t imagine another situation where you need to as aggressively biased.

It’s no surprise he has released the most censored LLM so far.

It’s like saying I shouldn’t be biased against my kid’s schoolteacher who is a habitual sexual offender.


He didn't do a nazi salute though. He made a motion that looked like one. HE literally went to a memorial for israelites a year early and wore a necklace in their memory for over a year.


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