> we just have to wait for the oncoming economic collapse, famine and mass migration. the great part of this whole thing is that the more we double down on the systems that brought us here, the more they will be undermined
Uhuh, we just need to wait until you stop reading dystopian books and will leave your basement.
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See, thus is what's wrong with you people. Some of us want to enjoy food, not to treat it like some necessary evil and stuff whatever amount of crap we need.
I don't eat any animal products and still enjoy food immensely. Enjoyment of food is based on circumstance and is relative: I lived in Nepal for a few years and saw farmers enjoy plates of rice and lentils more than most Westerners would enjoy a steak. It is entirely possible to enjoy food without destructive livestock such as cows.
> For example Objective-C / swift has a GC-less memory model which just means we get to do more with less memory. This is how iPhone typically ship with lesser RAM than Android phones, yet do everything that Android phones are capable of surprisingly well.
You forgot CPU that's light-years ahead of anything that Qualcomm or Samsung have. But, please, keep thinking that it is about Swift/Objective-C, lol.
Really? Even if you just do calisthenics in your home, you still need the space, the free time, and the lack of distractions, not to mention being blessed with the focus to do something so boring.
I'm a pretty hardcore runner (but also hate buying unnecessary things) and spend thousands of dollars a year on shoes and shorts. I weigh 200 pounds and run 300km per month, shoes do not last, and good ones make a difference. And again, I'm only able to have the time to do it due to life circumstances that haven't burdened me with other responsibilities.
Most other sports have gear or memberships that make them more expensive. Many people can't stick to a regular workout regimen and a lot of people I know only were able to when they paid big bucks for a personal trainer.
Yeah, it's possible to work out without money, but I wouldn't pretend it's free, and it only gets easier with money.
I don’t think you’re making much of a case here. Money doesn’t generally buy you free time, lack of distractions and focus. The space needed can be pretty minimal.
I do think running is probably easier for middle-class people to get into, not because of the equipment (it’s fine if it works for you, but I have no idea how you could spend that much — few will need to). I think middle-class people just are a lot more likely to be living in places that are nice to run around in.
But there are many forms of exercise and various options for limited space and budgets. Bodyweight/calisthenics, e.g., and basic weight-lifting.
> Money doesn’t generally buy you free time, lack of distractions and focus. The space needed can be pretty minimal.
I don't agree. Money buys a nanny, a housekeeper, uber eats, shorter commute or work from home... all of these can be a major factor in having the time and focus to exercise regularly.
It is the difference between buying expensive healthy food and going to a trainer who will tell you the most effective way to get in shape, and eating cheap unhealthy food that makes you feel bad and the trying to figure out how to exercise on your own.
Wealthy people certainly have an easier path to getting in shape
Get raw grains, get basic non-fancy non-organic veggies. Frozen or canned is fine.
If you eat meat, don't be shy about using cheaper cuts. Trimming meat is easy.
Trainers are great, but most people get trainers to help with motivation. You can also usually snag a free or very cheap single lesson with a trainer if you need particular things (nutrition, form) spot checked.
> most people get trainers to help with motivation.
Assuming poor and rich people have exact same level of motivation, this alone is guaranteed to lead to poor people exercising less.
From own experience, exercising by myself do tend to lead to repetitive routine that plateau pretty fast and gets demotivating due to no progress. But I used app rather then trainer.
It gets super demotivating and boring then. It turns into something like washing dishes, except less interesting and takes more time. At which point, you start to think that you might have to do something useful with that time - like cleaning, spending time with kids or reading/relaxing.
And from what I observed, I am not special snowflake in that regard.
Body-weight fitness, walking, jogging, running, hiking, swimming are all "free" to perform, but gear can be super expensive - take skiing, biking, water sports for example.
I recently went to a local bike shop (two in fact) and the average cost of a new modern bike is around ~$5,000.
There was one bike that I was looking at that was $15,000
I don’t even know how you’d spend 15k on a bike. Maybe top of the line tt/tri with super expensive wheels. But even then. Id rather go full custom at that point.
5k should get you a super nice bike, stylish, modern and all that. Diminishing returns probably start well under half that.
Edit— I do know of a 14k bike, the Rene Hearse 80th anniversary edition. Handbuilt custom, and there are going to be 8 of them. I’d love to ride one, but … that’s a lot of money.
In Folsom there is a guy named mark who has a full custom bike shop - mostly artisan style super roadsters (think LA Chopper style low rider bikes) -- the guy who makes them is a guy named Mark.
He charges typically around $16,000 for his creations. They are AMAZING looking bikes - but not my style at all.
The one I mentioned that was at Mikes Bikes in Folsom, was $15K - I cant recall the brand of that one, but it was a massive full suspension plus electric.
The Specialized there that was ~$12K was also full suspension electric..
The other high end store which is in downtown RoseVille...
Both places with lots of money... rich weekend warriors.
I think you're looking in the wrong places. I recently bought a nice bike for $600 that worked great on a 100 mile ride. If I hadn't gone to the fancy, trendy bike co-op, it probably would've been cheaper.
Cheap Walmart bikes can be fine for fitness. The problem with them is the components are fragile and they tend to break quickly when used for intense training. A broken bike sitting in your garage isn't going to get your heart rate up.
I don't buy into moral relativism. There are things that result in more or less human flourishing. Often it's not that hard to see the right thing.
There is some room for different value judgements, but that's not the same as saying all choices are morally equal. Which I don't think you're proposing.
Uhuh, we just need to wait until you stop reading dystopian books and will leave your basement.